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Thread: Arctiine or Zygaenid or Stathmopodinae?

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    I seem to be going in circle with this one.

    I have cheched the superfamily Sesioidea without result.

    So I am trying a logical approach which may well turn ut to be the correct one.

    In the course of checking out these moths I realised the antennal difference is due to the sex, the male with more coarsely featured ones.
    The almost symmetrically-shaped forewings & orange-red colouration is seen in both Atkinsonia & Snellenia.( & Tinaegeria -neotropical).

    It is possible the male may have larger & more prominent labial palps & also longer fringe on the forewings.
    Snellenia with its enormous palps can be discounted. There are only 2 Himalayan sppecies.

    Here is the female from northern Thailand ( fat abdomen , smooth antennae. smaller spiny hind legs.)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/5395214...n/photostream/

    Here is the male from Yunnan. (slender- built. pectinate antennae, larger more spiny legs , longer palps, longer hair fringe on FW.)
    Note identical colour to the female above. Forewing & thorax wholly orange-red, head black.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/itchydo...n/photostream/

    Since the male is identifiable as Atkinsonia, it follows the female is likewise so.

    There are several species in the region.

    TL Seow

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    Sessidae?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Smetacek View Post
    Sesiidae?
    Tried out the Sesiidae without result.
    The long straight antenna & long forewings are also against it.

    On reflection the ID of ? Atkinsonia is probably correct all along.

    TL Seow

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    Thanks for your input, Dr. Seow, and Peter.

    There's a discussion going on in the Entomology Group in FB here. : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...count=1&ref=nf
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    So expert opinion is now Schreckensteiniidae.. Kurt, think that if you ever see this again, you should take (a) voucher(s).

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    Quite a surprise to settle on Shreckensteiniidae.

    There are only 5 species, none of them red.
    Forewing-shape, antenna & leg spines do not match.
    http://www.springerreference.com/doc...bid/90353.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schreckensteiniidae

    TL Seow

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    Yes, Seow - I do not think it evident either, that is why I suggested vouchers should there ever be a chance

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