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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Check here , where is states the two were synonymised to A. moorei.

    The same is quoted by Inoue, Kennett & Kitching in Moths of Thailand, volume 2, 1997, Sphingidae. p.35. but adds " Horsfield & Moore..........1: 266, nec Boisduval [as a syn. of Ambulyx substrigalis Westwood]".

    The synonymy was undertaken by Kitching & Spitzer, 1995 :An annotated checklist of the Sphingidae of Vietnam, p.178. Tinea 14: 171-195.

    Moth of Borneo, volume 3 was published prior to 1995, in 1987.
    Quite right here. I happened to have the last volume of Moths of Borneo cotaining the Phaudidae , Himantopteridae & what is left over of Zygaenidae (a pity). It has an Anontated Checklist with the revised name.

    Ambulyx moorei was named by Boisduval. Horsfield & Moore's revision placed Moore's name as the author of the revised taxon moorei.
    Otherwise, Moorei cannot name a species after himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Quite right here. I happened to have the last volume of Moths of Borneo cotaining the Phaudidae , Himantopteridae & what is left over of Zygaenidae (a pity). It has an Anontated Checklist with the revised name.

    Ambulyx moorei was named by Boisduval. Horsfield & Moore's revision placed Moore's name as the author of the revised taxon moorei.
    Otherwise, Moorei cannot name a species after himself.

    TL Seow
    I agree entirely that Moore should not have named the sp. after himself (if he actually did, which I doubt, if my tutorship 45 years ago is anthing to go by, Moore was a very well respected entomologist in England). My latin is now rubbish, what does 'nec' mean with reference to Boisduval?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    I agree entirely that Moore should not have named the sp. after himself (if he actually did, which I doubt, if my tutorship 45 years ago is anthing to go by, Moore was a very well respected entomologist in England). My latin is now rubbish, what does 'nec' mean with reference to Boisduval?
    Normally nec- , nex means death Gk nekro as in necrophilia.
    However, Boisduval was alive even in 1875.
    The page 266 in the Catalogue is the one below.
    Under Ambulyx substrigilis is Ambulyx moorei Boisduval.
    Then a: Java (A. moorei Boisd) From Dr Horsfield's collection.

    http://www.archive.org/stream/catalo...e/265/mode/1up

    I can't make any sense out of it.

    TL Seow
    PS. I figure my limited Latin wouldn't make any sense out of it.
    Here is the real thing. Nec means 'neither...nor' ;also means ' (and) not'.
    http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/b...Conjunctio.htm
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    Three more moths.

    ID unknown


    ID unknown


    ID unknown
    Jerome
    Somewhere in Neverland~

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    Post 34.

    No. 1 is Celenna festivaria , Geometridae.

    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11...rosini_3_1.php

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    No. 3 is Rhimphaliodes macrostigma (Crambidae).

    No. 2 is plainly a Geometrid, but there are a large number of very similar species. Probably an Ennominae sp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    No. 3 is Rhimphaliodes macrostigma (Crambidae).

    No. 2 is plainly a Geometrid, but there are a large number of very similar species. Probably an Ennominae sp.
    I have exhausted myself going through the Geometridae, so I am throwing in the towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    I have exhausted myself going through the Geometridae, so I am throwing in the towel.

    TL Seow
    Sorry, but so do I!!!

    Jerome, don't be put off by non-ids, I have over 50% over my moth photos without any id (primarily Geometridae, Noctuidae and Pyraloidea). For many, the only reliable method of confirming the species is by examination of genitalia, impossible by photos.

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    Here's an Erebid.
    Lygniodes hypoleuca (?)
    Jerome
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    I think it should be Lygniodes endoleucus, not L. hypoleuca. My resources show that the latter sp. is not found south of the Thai border. The yellow on the abdomen is also distinctive. It is a male.

    I had always thought it belonged to the Catocalinae (Erebidae), but checking Roger's site, it appears to have changed. Catocalinae seems to have disappeared completely, by being chopped up into smaller sub-families. I suspect that until I get to know what is where now, I will be saying 'ex-Catocalinae'!

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