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    Post 18.


    1 & 2 is most likely Lebeda cognata.
    This species has been recorded in Singapore.
    A couple of somewhat similar species in P. Malaysia ie. L. agnata & nobilis but unlikely.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/...mpidae_3_1.php

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    I am fairly confident no. 3 is Genusa simplex , Geometridae, probably the only species in the genus here.
    As stated in the text, the markings varies & may be weak.
    The text image the FW marginal spots on the left.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11...rosini_4_1.php

    This Sumatran example is devoid of spots but the grey banding is similar.
    http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php...e?taxon=Genusa
    Correction. no 3 is Cerasana anceps.

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    I think the last one is more likely a Cerasana species (Notodontiae). Its resting position is not typical of Geometrids, and I have photo of a previously unrecorded Thai species which is closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    I think the last one is more likely a Cerasana species (Notodontiae). Its resting position is not typical of Geometrids, and I have photo of a previously unrecorded Thai species which is closer.
    You are right it is Cerasana anceps. The FW marginal spots matched.
    The brownish colour of the old specimen have caught me off-guard.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-4/...tidae_13_1.php

    I know most Geometrids rest with FWs raised, but the whole thing is rather confusing.
    Time to permanently retire the wording "fairly confident".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Time to permanently retire the wording "fairly confident".

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    Oh no! 'Fairly confident' allows me a bit of leeway!!!!

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    Congrats Les!

    Next flash coming.
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    Ambulyx moorei (?)

    Theretra nessus (?)

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    1. Krananda semihyalina.Geometridae.
    http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2189/2...22452f03_z.jpg

    5. Hyposidra talaca. Geometridae.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11...rmiini_7_1.php


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    No.2 looks close to Cyclosus inclusus - Zygaenidae. However, the black markings seem much more extensive, even for a female.
    No.3 is Ambulyx moorei- Sphingidae.
    No. 4 is Theretra nessus - Sphyngidae

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    No.3 is Ambulyx moorei- Sphingidae.
    Not sure if this is the valid name.
    Moth of Borneo list this sepcies as A. subocellata westwood 1847 but made no mention of A. moorei in the text (including under A. substrigilis).

    Funet put subocellata 1874, as a junior synonym of moorei 1858, quoting Moore as the author of his own name ( contravening ICZN rule).

    Lepindex put moorei 1858 as a synonym of subocellata in error quoting Butler as the author of moorei.
    It however, also place moorei 1858 Boisduval as a synonym od A. substrigilis 1874 Westwood.

    Boisduval is the correct author of A. moorei 1858 which is a synonym of A. substrigilis(possibly a variety by some).
    I don't think A. moorei have been upgraded to a full species from A. substrigilis (thereby creating a new species absent from the Bornean list).
    http://www.archive.org/stream/catalo...e/265/mode/1up

    A helpful feature of T. nessus is the pale patch on FW apex & the pinky abdominal sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Not sure if this is the valid name.
    Moth of Borneo list this sepcies as A. subocellata westwood 1847 but made no mention of A. moorei in the text (including under A. substrigilis).

    Funet put subocellata 1874, as a junior synonym of moorei 1858, quoting Moore as the author of his own name ( contravening ICZN rule).

    Lepindex put moorei 1858 as a synonym of subocellata in error quoting Butler as the author of moorei.
    It however, also place moorei 1858 Boisduval as a synonym od A. substrigilis 1874 Westwood.

    Boisduval is the correct author of A. moorei 1858 which is a synonym of A. substrigilis(possibly a variety by some).
    I don't think A. moorei have been upgraded to a full species from A. substrigilis (thereby creating a new species absent from the Bornean list).
    http://www.archive.org/stream/catalo...e/265/mode/1up

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    Check here , where is states the two were synonymised to A. moorei.

    The same is quoted by Inoue, Kennett & Kitching in Moths of Thailand, volume 2, 1997, Sphingidae. p.35. but adds " Horsfield & Moore..........1: 266, nec Boisduval [as a syn. of Ambulyx substrigalis Westwood]".

    The synonymy was undertaken by Kitching & Spitzer, 1995 :An annotated checklist of the Sphingidae of Vietnam, p.178. Tinea 14: 171-195.

    Moth of Borneo, volume 3 was published prior to 1995, in 1987.

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