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    Post 10.

    No correct match found.

    The 2nd should be a Noctuid.
    This Thaibugs site have one ( unidentified 18 ) which is a fair match.
    If you compare the left forewing with your pic. from tip to base you will notice the light & dark patches including the eye-like spot more or less match up.
    Conceivably it could be the same species (given individual variation /ssp difference) or belong to the same genus.
    Unfortunately it also remains unidentified.
    http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=241

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    Post 10.

    No correct match found.

    The 2nd should be a Noctuid.
    This Thaibugs site have one ( unidentified 18 ) which is a fair match.
    If you compare the left forewing with your pic. from tip to base you will notice the light & dark patches including the eye-like spot more or less match up.
    Conceivably it could be the same species (given individual variation /ssp difference) or belong to the same genus.
    Unfortunately it also remains unidentified.
    http://www.thaibugs.com/?page_id=241

    TL Seow
    I see your point. Well no worries, we'll get back to those later.
    Right now I have a few more up for IDs

    ID unknown


    Arctornis sp (?)


    ID unknown


    Completely new to this one. Haven't seen it before.
    ID unknown


    And here's it's underside.


    ID unknown


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    1. unknown ? Crambidae.

    2. Arctornis ?phasmodes. Closest match.
    Probably only 3 or 4 species of Artornis in Singapore.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...thini_1_15.php

    3. Close to Ngymia epitrotica, but could be in another Family. Correction : Somena similis.
    http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/...gmiini_8_6.php

    4 & 5.
    Leucoma ?impressa. Only 2 species in our region so this is probably right. You may have a better topside to compare.
    http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/4...ffe5ee31_o.jpg

    6.[I] Metaemere atriguttata[/I].Correction : Metaemene atrigutta.
    http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2791/4...3b9f80ce_m.jpg

    7. unknown.

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    Last edited by Psyche; 03-Aug-2013 at 02:49 PM. Reason: spelling error/correction

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    I am sure No 3. is Somena similis (Lymantriinae)

    Seow, I have a very similar species, but different, to that id'd as Metaemere atriguttata. I have tried to Google the Genus, but with no results. Which family does it belong to (I had thought probably Arctiinae)? Is there any info on this Genus available?

    Jerome, sorry to butt into your thread, but here is the Samui specimen, note additional spots on the forewing dorsum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    I am sure No 3. is Somena similis (Lymantriinae)

    Seow, I have a very similar species, but different, to that id'd as Metaemere atriguttata. I have tried to Google the Genus, but with no results. Which family does it belong to (I had thought probably Arctiinae)? Is there any info on this Genus available?

    Jerome, sorry to butt into your thread, but here is the Samui specimen, note additional spots on the forewing dorsum.
    You are right No. 3 is Somena similis. I went thru the images several times yet missed it because it was so small & low-res.

    Sorry , the name is Metaemene atriguttata, Noctuidae , Acotiniinae.
    It does look a good match to yours as well except for the 2 extra spots & reticulation.
    http://rvision.daydreamlabs.com/user...=50&size=small


    TL Seow
    PS. A check shows the correct name & spelling is Metaemene atrigutta.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/8658268478/
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    Thanks. I think I may be able to find several on my UFOs there. Acotiinae are not in Moths of Borneo yet nor Pinratana's volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Thanks. I think I may be able to find several on my UFOs there. Acotiinae are not in Moths of Borneo yet nor Pinratana's volumes.
    I happened to have a copy of Moths of Borneo with Noctuiidae, Acontiinae inside (published by Malayan Nature Journal)

    However, for Metaemene there is little to go on. Most in the book are Bornean endemics from the revision done.

    Jerome's shot is M. atrigutta (readily ID'ed by its more even brown ground colour.)

    Two other considered common & found outside Borneo as well (records sporadic due to revision ) are M. niasica & robusta(sp. novo).
    They both have a pinky brown ground with varying white reticulate pattern, but none have the extra 2 spots.

    TL Seow

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    I would like to thank you guys for helping me a lot with the IDs.

    More shots on the way.

    Found this large, stocky moth, roughly 8 cm from head to wingtip. Unfortunately, no dorsal shots. It flew off after a few shots.


    Here's an underside shot, if it helps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    I happened to have a copy of Moths of Borneo with Noctuiidae, Acontiinae inside (published by Malayan Nature Journal)


    TL Seow
    Thank you again!.

    I think I can't get volume 2 (Zygaenidae), volume 13 ( Noctuidae-Acontiinae) nor volume 17 (certain Noctuidae subfamilies) on the net. Very frustrating, as I could, at least, get to Genus level, and then do further searches.

    Regarding the Metaerene sp. I have managed to find other ssp. which have the additional spots, like mine. I think the id is acceptable, but 'under review'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Thank you again!.

    I think I can't get volume 2 (Zygaenidae), volume 13 ( Noctuidae-Acontiinae) nor volume 17 (certain Noctuidae subfamilies) on the net. Very frustrating, as I could, at least, get to Genus level, and then do further searches.

    Regarding the Metaerene sp. I have managed to find other ssp. which have the additional spots, like mine. I think the id is acceptable, but 'under review'.
    I only have a few volumes. A few volumes are also not published in MNJ.
    It would appear that the micromoths (Crambidae, Pyralidae etc) are left out completely.
    It certainly is frustrating and daunting to try & ID.

    TL Seow

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