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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    So true, and for me I have also include A. dubius. I, myself had photos from Ranong listed as A. jhora, and only realised my error and changed them recently to A. dubius. As Seow mentioned, the difference being that the apiculus for A. pygmaeus is blunt, whereas A. dubius and A. jhora is pointed. Fortunately, I now realise I do not have to worry about A. jhora up here, and in Malaysia, you do not need to worry about A. dubius. I can not see that their ranges overlap.
    Quite right. The apiculus in pygmaeus is present but ill-defined with a blunt tip.

    I am a bit confused here. The type location of jhora is Sikkim, but you seem to imply that jhora do not occur north of Malaya.

    TL Seow
    PS. I did a check. I see Thailand do not list A. jhora as present.
    The A jhora I linked are mostly from HK.
    Seem like a peculiar situation in which A. jhora is recorded from north India, south China & Malaya & Sumatra, but not from Thailand or Indochina.
    This somewhat parallel that of Horaga albimacula except we know this is present in KPN.
    Last edited by Psyche; 13-Jan-2013 at 03:31 PM. Reason: PS

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    Nice series Lemon . Seems that this period of the year is not bad for butt hunting in Fraser Hill
    CHNG

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinuteMaid View Post


    i have no idea what this one is.


    Untitled by LemonTeaYK, on Flickr

    This is not an aberrant I. helicon as I thought. It is a Prosotas male species.
    The postdiscal band is as for P. gracilis or bhutea.

    P. gracilis have a sharply defined black base on the forewing and lack the spot (in space 1b) below the central cellspot.
    It has a postdiscal spot in space 1b as seen in your example of gracilis in the post 12.

    P. bhutea lacks the spot below the central cellspot but also do not have a postdiscal spot in space 1b.
    It usually have darkened wingbase (? always)
    http://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lepi...04%20(2)-1.JPG

    It can not be P. pia pia in which the postdiscal spots are not rounded (similar to nora).
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iaMUpUnAC1.jpg

    P. pia marginata from Thailand.
    http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...taMUpUnAC1.jpg

    It looks like it is Prosotas bhutea, but the confirmatory lack of spots in space 1b of the forewing is hidden.
    No other match.
    (Note C&P4 does not mention P. bhutea has dark bases .)

    TL Seow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    This is not an aberrant I. helicon as I thought. It is a Prosotas male species.
    The postdiscal band is as for P. gracilis or bhutea.

    P. gracilis have a sharply defined black base on the forewing and lack the spot (in space 1b) below the central cellspot.
    It has a postdiscal spot in space 1b as seen in your example of gracilis in the post 12.

    P. bhutea lacks the spot below the central cellspot but also do not have a postdiscal spot in space 1b.
    It usually have darkened wingbase (? always)
    http://www.neutron.phys.ethz.ch/Lepi...04%20(2)-1.JPG

    It can not be P. pia pia in which the postdiscal spots are not rounded (similar to nora).
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iaMUpUnAC1.jpg

    P. pia marginata from Thailand.
    http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...taMUpUnAC1.jpg

    It looks like it is Prosotas bhutea, but the confirmatory lack of spots in space 1b of the forewing is hidden.
    No other match.
    (Note C&P4 does not mention P. bhutea has dark bases .)

    TL Seow
    thanks again dr seow for the links and ID!

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