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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    Thank you, Seow. I had discounted Potanthus confucius as the spots are not as strongly conjoined as in my existing photos, as below.
    I think your post 8 P. confucius is more typical as most pics eg C&P4 & Fleming show that form.

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    There is another species in your area in which the upperside spots are connected, and that between spot 5 & spot 6 also by a tiny bridge as in confucius. This is P. pava It is said to be yellower.
    http://www.hkls.org/p_pava.htm

    I am not sure how to tell these 2 apart.

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    About the only positive difference between the HKLS P. pava and your 2 P. confucius is that the outer margins of the subapical spots are deeply concave in the 2 confucius.

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    After the couple of oopsies with Brian's "P. confucius" I thought I better have a 2nd look at some of the other P. confucius.

    Your broad-banded confucius is actually a female Taractrocera archias.
    The clincher is the crescent spot in the centre of the left hindwing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post
    After the couple of oopsies with Brian's "P. confucius" I thought I better have a 2nd look at some of the other P. confucius.

    Your broad-banded confucius is actually a female Taractrocera archias.
    The clincher is the crescent spot in the centre of the left hindwing.

    TL Seow
    But there is the apiculus present! It can not be Taractrocera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painted Jezebel View Post
    But there is the apiculus present! It can not be Taractrocera.
    You are right. After I logged off and shut down the laptop, I realised I forgot to look at the apiculus.

    Also the there is a spot in space 7, which is absent in Taractocera.
    So it is correctly P. confucius.

    The forewing of P. pava is almost identical but the key state the spot in space 6 on the hindwing is always present and prominent. Fleming states the hindwing band extend to space 6 indicating it is a large spot.

    Do you have an underside shot of this one? Once the ID is confirmed it will be useful to see how the underside looks.

    TL Seow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyche View Post

    Do you have an underside shot of this one? Once the ID is confirmed it will be useful to see how the underside looks.

    TL Seow
    Sorry, it wanted to sunbathe so much, it opened its wings before I could get an underside shot.

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    Default Weeks 3 & 4

    Week 3 was an almost total wash-out and 4 has been almost as bad!

    A few from the last fortnight:
    1) Melanitis phedima abdullae (Dark Evening Brown). I am always on the look out for M. zitenius auletes, for which I have a voucher specimen, but no photo. However, I think I have missed out, again.
    2) Euthalia monina monina (Malay Baron) - male.
    3) Gangara thrysis thrysis (Giant Redeye). This must be right, but the angle of the photo makes the upperside markings look odd.
    4) Jamides sp. I know it belonfs to the Celeno group, but which one?
    5) Potanthus sp. I know which ones it can not be, but I have a complete block on this Genus.
    6) Baoris sp?

    I did manage to see Parantica melaneus planiston (Chocolate Tiger) for the first time since 2007, but I was on my bike, and so did not have the camera to hand.

    I had also hoped to find some of the single brooded species which are about at this time of year, but no luck.
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    3. should be the female of G. lebadea, since the subapical spots are missing.
    4. is J. celeno. All the striae are misaligned.
    5 is P. trachala. Hindwing dark spotting; forewing spots indented margins & little overlap between spot 3 & 4.
    6. should be Caltoris bromus. Partially pale antennal shaft; 2 cell spots; (slightly ochreous) brown underside.

    TL Seow

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    Uncle Les, the Dark Evening Brown and C. bromus shots are great!
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