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    Default Are these Jamides malaccanus?

    Here are three specimens which I have in my J. malaccanus file. However, there are breaks in the markings, which suggest I may have one or more wrong.

    They are in increasing order of broken striae.
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    These are difficult ones to ID.
    There are 2 similar species malaccanus & parasaturatus.

    1 & 2 should be J. malaccanus male & female.
    3 have the striae more misaligned but topside exposes space 4, 5, & 6 of the right hindwing.The large & dark inner & outer submarginal spots is more in accord with J. malaccanus.
    I would leave them as J. malaccanus.

    There are many errors on the net eg. Wilkipedia have the correct male malaccanus but the female is a member of the elpis subgroup.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ja...sMFUpUnAC1.jpg

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    Thanks, Seow. It was specimen 3, photographed today, that got me a bit concerned. I also have a photo of a specimen from Nakhon Sri Thammarat province which has all the striae absolutely perfectly in line, so I did start to wonder.

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    I found the confirmation for pic 3.
    C&P4 states in its key that the female of malaccanus have the veins lightly dark dusted in the distal third of the wing.
    A check with the images in C&P4 and Fleming indeed shows that in malaccanus the veins are distinctly darkened between the marginal & submarginal spots whereas in parasaturatus they are much less so.

    In pic 3 the topside veins visible are vein 5 & 6 , and they are strongly black whereas in parasaturatus they would only be slightly darkened.

    We can conclude that pic 3 is indeed a female J. malaccanus.

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    I have located the correct upperside/underside images of the males of malaccanus & parasaturatus for future reference.
    http://www.boldsystems.org/views/tax...p?taxid=296319

    The one on the left with the broken right forewing is malaccanus.
    ID points ; deeper blue; dark border along termen; hindwing with dark 'spots especially near tornus.

    The one on the right is parasaturatus.
    ID points ; lighter blue; dark border towards apex; hindwing without the dark 'spots'.

    TL Seow

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    Just one definite parasaturatus have beeb found on the net.
    This is Federick's shot from the Panti forest, Johor.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EK80AsaR7...malaccanus.jpg
    Note the differences. (Topside pale blue visible.)
    1. Submarginal striae on forewing becoming obsolete towards the apex. (Evenly defined throughout in malaccanus.)
    2. Striae blue-tinged due to translucency effect , ie. Glassy Caerulean.( Hindwing striae strongly white in malaccanus.)

    This is a Malayan example of malaccanus for comparison.
    http://malaysianinsects.web.fc2.com/...malaccanus.htm

    TL Seow

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