Shots from Kampar

[Cruiser]

It was a very fruitful trip for those who had visited Kampar over the weekend with great food and many rare butts.

Many thanks to LC aka Caveman and CM aka Common mime for showing us around the butts hot spots, sharing a few rare species here:

1. banded peacock
2~4. dragon tail
5. banded peacock
6. Polyura delphis concha (Jewel Nawab)

[Common Mime]

Woah! The dragontail resting on the fern is great!

I must go get my Jewel soon.

You manage very well for the first BP! :thumbsup:

BTW, where are the rest? :dance3:

[Silverstreak]

Phwah!

Congratulation beautiful shots and butts most have not seen!

Never chio the rest? NVM you guys can be the guide in future expedition!:bsmile:


:cheers:

PS: :embrass: apologies CM you chioed and I missed the message!:mad2:

[Commander]

Great shots! Looks like you enjoyed your stay there. :)

Jewel Nawab is Polyura delphis concha. The green of the open winged Banded Peacock looks different from what I know of it. Something to do with the angle of light and flash?

That's a nice butt peeing shot you have there of the Dragontail as well. :bsmile:

[Leopard Lacewing]

Wow! Nice shots and what a fruitful trip, BJ! :thumbsup:
Interesting Nawab too!

Cheers!

[Painted Jezebel]

What fantastic shots. Love the White Dragontail, Lamproptera curius, strange that it is supposed to be the rarer of the two dragontails, but is the one I see more often.

I am trying to get the Papilio palinurus (Banded Peacock) at an angle where the colours turn blue, but not managed it yet, but trying. Beautiful shot.

Finally, the Polyura species is most definitely NOT P. athamas. I believe that it is Polyura delphis ssp. (Jewelled Nawab). Wish I had it up my way!

[Common Mime]

BJ,

Hope you don't mind posting one Banded Peacock in flight shot here ;P

[Common Mime]

The green of the open winged Banded Peacock looks different from what I know of it. Something to do with the angle of light and flash?



I am trying to get the Papilio palinurus (Banded Peacock) at an angle where the colours turn blue, but not managed it yet, but trying. Beautiful shot.
Is this the green that what you guys are looking for?

[Peacock Royal]

Wah, fantatstic capture of these beautiful butts. How can we not visit this place often ?

[henrykoh]

When is someone bringing me there? Great shots indeed.

[Painted Jezebel]

Is this the green that what you guys are looking for?

The Banded Peacock is a wonderful species because of its wing scales (I can't remember, are they refractive or reflective? My Alzheimer's is catching up on me). They change colour depending on your angle to the butt. BJ's shot is probably the least reflective of any, and shows the true colour. However, 90% of shots will show a bluer tint, but I have yet to manage the right angle where the colour is a deep Royal Blue.

[Yong San]

Very nice :thumbsup:
That shot of dragontail come to your hand is really special moment :cheers:

[Sky Blue]

Well done BJ, indeed a very fruitful trip for you :)

[Cruiser]

Very nice :thumbsup:
That shot of dragontail come to your hand is really special moment :cheers:

Yong san, that was SC's fingures, not mine :bsmile:

[Cruiser]

Well done BJ, indeed a very fruitful trip for you :)

I think so but unfortunately your cam was broken down during the trip :-(

[Elbowed Pierrot]

fwoah, envy..... camera broke down? buy new one :)

[Glorious Begum]

Finally you got the Banded peacock. :redbounce

What about other shots, i was told you guys shot more than 50 species. :what:

This is the one I told you in that area but surprisingly didn't see any of them, the Libythea myrrha hecura :-(

http://www.pbase.com/lcgoh/image/96539143.jpg

[Glorious Begum]

to add on..

1) Melanocyma faunula faunula
2) Parthenos sylvia lilacinus
3) Tongeia potanini glycon

[Glorious Begum]

4) Gerosis limax dirae
5) Sinthusa nasaka amba (Changed)
6) Not sure ??? :confused:

[Cruiser]

Finally you got the Banded peacock. :redbounce

What about other shots, i was told you guys shot more than 50 species. :what:

This is the one I told you in that area but surprisingly didn't see any of them, the Libythea myrrha hecura :-(

think you must have shot the Banded peacock before, anywhere the Libythea myrrha hecura was nicely taken :thumbsup:

SC, CM and CP please post yours......:)

[atronox]

The 3rd one is really unique, orange bars.

[Common Mime]

SC, CM and CP please post yours......:)I dun have much as I only shoot for 4 hours while SC's shots are still with me.

Do you mean those shots made using his HP? :thumbsup:

[Painted Jezebel]

I've never seen a photo of Tongeia potanini glycon (Dark Cupid) before. Very nice!:thumbsup: What type of habitat do you find it in?

With regards to the unknown specimen, it COULD be a female Miletus gallus gallus (Extended Brownie), from the lighter markings, but that is only an educated guess, based on your single photograph, and can not be construed as a definite ID. Did you, at any time see the upperside, and if so, was the hindwing entirely brown or did it have a white stripe?

[atronox]

The hypolycaena actually looks like a narrow spark.;-)

[Glorious Begum]

I've never seen a photo of Tongeia potanini glycon (Dark Cupid) before. Very nice!:thumbsup: What type of habitat do you find it in?

With regards to the unknown specimen, it COULD be a female Miletus gallus gallus (Extended Brownie), from the lighter markings, but that is only an educated guess, based on your single photograph, and can not be construed as a definite ID. Did you, at any time see the upperside, and if so, was the hindwing entirely brown or did it have a white stripe?

Not 100% sure as we only saw one. It was in the shady and wet area near the rocks.

As for the latter, the upper side have a white stripe.


The hypolycaena actually looks like a narrow spark.;-)

You are right my friend, it is Sinthusa nasaka amba. :thumbsup:

[Glorious Begum]

I dun have much as I only shoot for 4 hours while SC's shots are still with me.

Do you mean those shots made using his HP? :thumbsup:

Aiyo... he is heart broken already lor. You are again reminding him about his broken camera, :bsmile:

[Common Mime]

Not 100% sure as we only saw one. It was in the shady and wet area near the rocks.
We saw it on Sunday as well. According to BJ, at the exact same location, the hut.


Aiyo... he is heart broken already lor. You are again reminding him about his broken camera, :bsmile:He should be proud of his HP instead.

He laughed the louder? :blah:

[Common Mime]

Ok, here are my takes.

1. Papilio helenus (Red Helen) Looks like the resident at that area.
2, Papilio polytes romulus (Common Mormon)
3. Tagiades gana (Large Snow Flat)
4. Arhopala
5. Ring
6. Acytolepis puspa lambi (Common Hedge Blue)
7. Mycalesis janardana sagittigera (The Lesser BushBrown<Pisuth>)(The Common Bush Brown<C&P4>)
8. Saletara liberia distanti (Malaysian Albatross)
9. Koruthaialos rubecula (The Narrow-banded Velvet)
10. Koruthaialos rubecula (The Narrow-banded Velvet)Check out the butt of the skipper on the RHS
11. Skipper

[Sky Blue]

fwoah, envy..... camera broke down? buy new one :)Ya, luckily can borrow cam from CM's brother. Now got good reason to buy new cam lol :grin2:

Shots from my mobile phone ;-)

1. Shooting White Dragon Tail
2. Shooting Banded Banded Peacock
3. "Common" Raja Brooke
4. Chersonesia intermedia
5. 2 butt with big different in term of size

[Cruiser]

SC, Your HP is really powerful for macro shot. Still lots of pics to bring back even though your camera was broken down.

Sharing a pic of the Chersonesia intermedia (Dwarf).

[Common Mime]

BJ, did you invert the picture? The 10 cent coin doesnt look right? A good collection piece!

[Sky Blue]

CM, #9 should be Saletara liberia distanti (Malaysian Albatross)

[Common Mime]

Thanks for the ID, SC.

Too tired to check these last night.

Anyway, I presume you meant #8 instead? ;P

[atronox]

Hp cam cn be so sharp?:what:

[Cruiser]

Hp cam cn be so sharp?:what:

SC even took video, waiting for him to upload to Utube :)

[Rustic]

SC, CM and CP please post yours......:)

Hi,

Processing already started. Based on the latest preliminary list, should be 70 species recorded (as predicted by you) for the trip. :cheers:

Our total species count for Kampar (including SG's common species) could outnumber AHBT. Perhaps, we should support CM's request for a Kampar checklist. ;-)

CM: I still owe you S$ and MYR.

[Common Mime]

Hi,

Processing already started. Based on the latest preliminary list, should be 70 species recorded (as predicted by you) for the trip. :cheers:

Our total species count for Kampar (including SG's common species) could outnumber AHBT. Perhaps, we should support CM's request for a Kampar checklist. ;-)

CM: I still owe you S$ and MYR.Hi CP, money wise, we can settle later. :)

Please bear in mind that the areas/places that you covered for the past weekend is very much larger than AHBT, it is no suprise that the species found will outnumbered AHBT. To me, AHBT is just a short trail which cater for close to hundred species is already a great achievement! I would not be suprise if the species seen at the area we covered last weekend matches the total number species in Singapore, if you really do a proper survey. Therefore, it is not fair to compare in this way.

With regards to the checklist, I was actually suggesting to have different photo for different checklist as the current checklist does feature some Malaysia species in the Malaysia checklist but the photos are shared. That's why we were discussing the possibility that perhaps a differenct checklist to cater for different state/area in Malaysia using the local photos.

A kind note to all, which is if you really want to classify the actual origin of the butterflies that you shot, it should not be label them as "butterflies from Kampar" simply because the area you covered as I mentioned above, is very much equivalent to the size of a Singapore island if you take the distant you travel from the Noth to the South

[Sky Blue]

Butterflies of Perak, can? ;-)

[Common Mime]

Butterflies of Perak, can? ;-)Sounds good. :cheers:

[Cruiser]

BJ, did you invert the picture? The 10 cent coin doesnt look right? A good collection piece!

CM, I inverted it back to the original orientation, otherwise it looks funny after you pointed out :)


Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post Butterflies of Perak, can?

SC, Perak is fine with me too.

[Sky Blue]

some shots from day 1. Thanks to CM & his brother for lending me their cam, really appreciated!!! (if not I can only shoot with my little hp...)

Troides (Trogonoptera) brookiana albescens (Rajah Brooke's Birdwing)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165051.jpg

Anyone want to guess the numbers?
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165040.jpg

Lamproptera curius curius (White Dragontail)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165009.jpg

Showing the size of actual butt, it's very small :)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165017.jpg

http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165027.jpg

more to come...

[Common Mime]

some shots from day 1. Thanks to CM & his brother for lending me their cam, really appreciated!!! (if not I can only shoot with my little hp...)

Troides (Trogonoptera) brookiana albescens (Rajah Brooke's Birdwing)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165051.jpg

Anyone want to guess the numbers?
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217165040.jpg

:what: :what: The 1st shot is amazing sharp and it was taken nicely! :thumbsup:

[Peacock Royal]

SC, your first shot was great.
How come the White Dragontail so tame ?

[Commander]

some shots from day 1. Thanks to CM & his brother for lending me their cam, really appreciated!!! (if not I can only shoot with my little hp...)

Great shots! :thumbsup: Your Fuji S2 decided to kaput after going all the way to Kampar? Or was it your lens?

[Elbowed Pierrot]

time for a D3 :), now I know the actual size of the dragontail

[Sky Blue]

Thanks Fed, CM, that's the power of Tamron 90 :)

Khew, it's the more than 4 years old Fuji S2 lor...

Simon, D3 is too big (or rather too expensive) for me, I'm considering the full frame D700, all my wide-angle lens can become real WA :)

[atronox]

I like the way they pop up in the first pic, like 3D!:what:

[Cruiser]

SC, Excellent shots, thought they were taken with your hP initially :cheers:

[Sky Blue]

How come the White Dragontail so tame ?Base on field observation, this butt not really sensitive to human, which is danger for the butt.

1. record shot - (?) Eurema blanda snelleni (Three Spot Grass Yellow), the size is quite big compare to the local species, CP also saw it.
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164875.jpg

2. Rohana parisatis siamensis
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164791.jpg

3. Rohana parisatis siamensis
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164804.jpg

4. ID pending
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164850.jpg

5. Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164921.jpg

6. Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164895.jpg

7. Parantica aspasia aspasia (Yellow Glassy Tiger)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164912.jpg

8. Junonia iphita horsfieldi (Chocolate Soldier)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164941.jpg

[Sky Blue]

9a. Tongeia potanini glycon (Dark Cupid)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164828.jpg

9b.
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164843.jpg

10. (?)Jamides caeruleus caeruleus (Sky Blue)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164885.jpg

11. Zeltus amasa maximinianus (Fluffy Tit)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164984.jpg

12. Ypthima baldus newboldi (Common Five Ring)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164931.jpg

13. Mycalesis janardana sagittigera (Common Bush Brown)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164997.jpg

[atronox]

2 & 3 should be a male Rohana parisatis siamensis.

[Painted Jezebel]

Aaron's right with regards 2&3 (a male).
5 & 6 are Tirumala septentrionis septentrionis (Dark Blue Tiger)
4 has me stumped at present.

A lovely series that has me chomping at the bit before I get to the Cameron Highlands on 23 August for a week!

[Rustic]

work-in-progress ....

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080718%20-%20Perak/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080719%20-%20Perak/

[Sky Blue]

Thanks Aaron & Les for confirmation. I was about to ask whether that's the pseudosiamensis subspecies?

[Painted Jezebel]

SC, you are quite right. This is what happens when I rely on my aged memory. The correct name is Rohana parisatis pseudosiamensis.

The ssp. siamensis belongs to a different species, Rohana tokiniana siamensis, not found south of Northern Thailand.

This differs from what is mentioned in C&P4, and appears to be updated thinking on this genus since publication of the 4th edition. To be honest, I'm not sure who is right!

[Common Mime]

SC, you are quite right. This is what happens when I rely on my aged memory. The correct name is Rohana parisatis pseudosiamensis.

The ssp. siamensis belongs to a different species, Rohana tokiniana siamensis, not found south of Northern Thailand.

This differs from what is mentioned in C&P4, and appears to be updated thinking on this genus since publication of the 4th edition. To be honest, I'm not sure who is right!
LC labeled it as Rohana parisatis siamensis (http://butterflycircle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=66268&postcount=2). :sweat:

[Common Mime]

work-in-progress ....

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080718%20-%20Perak/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080719%20-%20Perak/

CP, you have quite an impressive collection, especially the series from Gua Tempurung! :thumbsup:

[Cruiser]

work-in-progress ....

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080718%20-%20Perak/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080719%20-%20Perak/

CP, good harvest! your Yamfly(?) looks so yellowish :thinking:

[Rustic]

CP, good harvest! your Yamfly(?) looks so yellowish :thinking:

Color levelling error. Intention was to bring out the pattern for ID purpose. The yellowish version was from an overexposed version. :)

Updated:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080718%20-%20Perak%20-%20Gopeng%20Tapah/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080719%20-%20Perak%20-%20Tapah/

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v210/skyflash/Butterflies%20-%20Malaysia/20080720%20-%20Perak%20-%20Kampar%20Gopeng/

[Painted Jezebel]

LC labeled it as Rohana parisatis siamensis (http://butterflycircle.com/forums/showpost.php?p=66268&postcount=2). :sweat:

LC is using C&P4. My feeling is that, as that is the referece work the site relies on for Singapore and Malaysia, use that. Unless a Nymphalid expert contacts me/us to give the definitive answer, there will continue to be confusion over the correct name.:sweat:

At least you do not have both species down south, so everyone should know what species is being discussed.

[atronox]

SC, you are quite right. This is what happens when I rely on my aged memory. The correct name is Rohana parisatis pseudosiamensis.

The ssp. siamensis belongs to a different species, Rohana tokiniana siamensis, not found south of Northern Thailand.

This differs from what is mentioned in C&P4, and appears to be updated thinking on this genus since publication of the 4th edition. To be honest, I'm not sure who is right!I thought it was the other way round!:bsmile:

[Cruiser]

Saw this skipper cat(?) on bamboo leaf during the trip. SC, thought you should already have the answer by now :)

[Sky Blue]

Thanks BJ for posting the cat photo, the adult looks like Halpe flava, with some distinct marking on the underside. The upperside (no photo) marking match too :)

Take a look on the plate 357 Pitsuth BOT.

http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217605046.jpg

[Sky Blue]

Some Pierid
Appias lyncida vasava (Chocolate Albatross)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940287.jpg

Appias nero figulina (Orange Albatross)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940716.jpg

http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940670.jpg

http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940727.jpg

Hebomoia glaucippe aturia (Great Orange Tip)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940187.jpg

record shot of Pareronia valeria lutescens (Wanderer)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217941827.jpg

Prioneris philonome themana (Redspot Sawtooth)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940631.jpg

[Sky Blue]

Nymphalidae Family

Polyura delphis concha (Jewel Nawab)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940275.jpg

Ragadia makuta siponta
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940763.jpg

[Sky Blue]

Finally all the skipper

Tagiades gana gana (Large Snow Flat)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164859.jpg

Gerosis limax dirae
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164964.jpg

http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164951.jpg

Halpe porus (Moore's Ace)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164816.jpg

Halpe insignis
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217940862.jpg

Odontoptilum pygela pygela (The Banded Angle)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217164975.jpg

Pseudocoladenia dan dhyana (Fulvous Pied Flat)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217941034.jpg

Koruthaialos rubecula rubecula (Narrow-banded Velvet)
http://butterfly.mingcolour.com/album/perak/82_1217941643.jpg

[Commander]

Woo~ Looks like you guys really hit a butt gold mine over there. :cheers: That's a really pristine Jewel Nawab there. :thumbsup:

BTW, Chocolate Albatross is Appias lyncida vasava.

[Peacock Royal]

SC, you got some very nice shots. Really a good harvest.
Thanks for sharing.

[Sky Blue]

Thanks Khew for the ID correction :)

Thanks Fed, yup really lots of butt there.