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Painted Jezebel
05-Mar-2008, 06:56 PM
I am delighted to post, what I believe are the first photographs EVER of a live specimen of the recently described Atrophaneura adamsoni takakoae.:redbounce

I also attach two new photos of Papilio palinurus palinurus, and one each of Cethosia cyane euanthes (common, I know, but it is one of my better efforts!) and Euploea sylvester harrisii, which is a new species for my list!:gbounce:

Overall, not a bad day, today, despite it being overcast.

05-Mar-2008, 07:00 PM
Congrats, Les for being the first in the world to shoot the live specimen of Atrophaneura adamsoni takakoe. :cheers:
A very attractive butterfly, and you managed very well taken shots of this species. :thumbsup:

05-Mar-2008, 07:05 PM

Thanks for sharing the Atrophaneura adamsoni takakoe.:cheers:

The Leopard Lacewing is a TOP SHOT!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Weatherwise we are in the same doldrum here in Singapore , pea soup weather for the last 4-5 days!


Common Mime
05-Mar-2008, 07:20 PM
Sunny, mai tu liao.

Join them at KS!!!

Congrats Les!

05-Mar-2008, 07:25 PM

Dun make me :mad2: ........first to put name down ended up cannot go due some matters under my care during the time frame.

Nevermind , one of theses day I will be the lone ranger heading to KS to terrorize Les and his butteflies .:bsmile:

Common Mime
05-Mar-2008, 07:26 PM
According to your explantion, you can't go in Apr, but there are more options!

How about Mar 08? :devil: :diablo:

kekekekeke :yahoo:

Glorious Begum
05-Mar-2008, 07:35 PM
Not sure if I can be the 3rd in the world to see the live specimen :thinking:

05-Mar-2008, 07:37 PM
Les, we pack our expert cat farmers over there and we record the life history of the species for the first time as well? :)

Painted Jezebel
05-Mar-2008, 08:04 PM
Les, we pack our expert cat farmers over there and we record the life history of the species for the first time as well? :)

More than welcome to try, however, the female has not yet been described, although I MUST have seen one today, I saw 5 flying about, but the sexes are very similar, if the nominate ssp is anything to go by!

Chestnut Bob
07-Mar-2008, 11:57 PM
Congratulations on the world's first Les! Do you notice that your shots are getting alot better too? Especially the LL shot, its a keeper!

Les, we pack our expert cat farmers over there and we record the life history of the species for the first time as well?

Splendid idea Khew! Would be good material for the blog and mag... And some other butt shooters out there will eat their hearts out.

Painted Jezebel
10-Mar-2008, 04:49 PM
And here is the underside!

Leopard Lacewing
10-Mar-2008, 05:37 PM
Wow! Les, this is a nice shot! Sharp pics with neat background. :thumbsup:


Painted Jezebel
10-Mar-2008, 09:45 PM
Thanks, Bobby. Actually, the background was unavoidable, as there was nothing close behind the butt. I prefer to have a 'messy' background, rather than 'clean', as it gives a sense of place, which, to me, is just as important as the butterfly. I think this makes me a minority of one.:bsmile:

Peacock Royal
10-Mar-2008, 10:13 PM
Les, last shot is great. Well done.

Any sighting of Atrophaneura adamsoni takakoae in Sabah ? Hope to go butts hunting in Sabah one day. :)

BTW, Les provided a bit more info on the species at http://www.insectnet.com/dcforum/DCForumID26/86.html

10-Mar-2008, 10:15 PM
Les, last shot is nice, clean BG and good composition :thumbsup:

Painted Jezebel
10-Mar-2008, 10:31 PM
I did not post those photos of the set specimen here, because they were..... well, set! However, since my comments on the insect.net site, I am delighted to say that I have found a colony (seen 7 or 8 specimens on differing days, male & female) of the species away from Hin Lad Waterfall, and that is where I managed to take the photos shown here. I have since seen quite a few specimens so there is hope that it is expanding its range on the island. Unfortunatley, this new location is set for development!!!:cry: :mad2:

For those of you who read the insect.net comments, you may see that I have given a guarded reply about the third ssp. I strongly suspect that this is just a synonym of the takakoae ssp., but as I have not seen a specimen, or seen the paper in which it was published, I can not say for sure, but the Island on which it was found is too close, for me.

Glorious Begum
10-Mar-2008, 10:32 PM
just make sure you don't catch them all. Leave a few for us to shoot, ok ? :bsmile:

Painted Jezebel
10-Mar-2008, 10:38 PM
Les, last shot is great. Well done.

Any sighting of Atrophaneura adamsoni takakoae in Sabah ? Hope to go butts hunting in Sabah one day. :)

Thank you. As far as Sabah is concerned, no chance! It is only known from Nakhon Si Thammarat (1972 only) and more recently Koh Samui. Possibly my neighbouring island of Ko Phangan as well.

I, also, have the intention of visiting Sabah in the next couple of years.

Painted Jezebel
10-Mar-2008, 10:45 PM
just make sure you don't catch them all. Leave a few for us to shoot, ok ? :bsmile:

I have my 1, and that suffices for me, and also for the people who regulate the checklists.. Rest assured, that I will NOT be catching any more, I don't like doing that in the first place, but scientifically, I have to have a specimen for inspection if I am to provide a paper providing the defintive checklist for Samui, which, as you know, is the main purpose of my retirement!

18-Feb-2010, 06:53 PM
What is the subspecies of Atrophaneura adamsoni pictured on this page (http://lepido-france.fr/2010/02/atrophaneura-adamsoni-takakoae-uehara-2006/) :



Here is one of the pictures :


<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.fr/lh/photo/MGj9hfPh2CG6lBHcGnpiEA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6gGHqjZKHDk/S3rRc8HB0dI/AAAAAAAAfes/yb8uRUhi41o/s144/atrophaneura_adamsoni_male_et_femelle.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">De <a href="http://picasaweb.google.fr/lepido.france/KohChangAngkor2007?feat=embedwebsite">Koh Chang &amp; Angkor 2007</a></td></tr></table>

18-Feb-2010, 07:10 PM
Picture : male & female from Koh Chang island (2007) : which subspecies ?

18-Feb-2010, 07:23 PM
An other picture : is it an other female form ?

Common Mime
18-Feb-2010, 08:52 PM

19-Feb-2010, 07:45 AM
beautiful shots les! Congrats on the plus! And no you are not minority of one if u take into consideration "background neutral" people :)

Painted Jezebel
19-Feb-2010, 08:43 AM
Hi there Jean-Marc, give my regards to Olivier please.

I, personally, have considerable doubts as to whether these specimens from Koh Chang are, in fact, A. a. takakoae. I have seen a couple of other photos from there, and they all show considerably greater white discal markings on the hindwings than in the type specimens from Samui. All the Samui specimens I have come across show the reduced markings.

Adam Cotton, who resides in Chang Mai is a Papilionid specialist, and I have promissed him a couple of specimens from Samui so he can check the validity of the subspecies. It would be very useful if he could also get specimens from Koh Chang to verify which ssp. it is. I have photos of the set specimen from Samui, I will email them to you for comparison.

Sorry I can not give you a definitive answer, but matters are still somewhat up in the air at the moment.

19-Feb-2010, 10:42 PM
Hi Les !

I sent your regards to Olivier. :cheers:
If necessary, I can present some pictures of Atrophaneura adamsoni Ko Chang samples setted and pined (males & females). :thinking:
Unfortunately, regarding the female with hindwings almost completly white (upper side), I got only pictures and I did not caught the animal. :cry:

On the page : http://picasaweb.google.fr/lepido.france/KohChangAngkor2007#
others pictures of Ko Chang : butterflies and biotops. :what:

Kind regards,