Moths from Northern Thailand

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I have a (somewhat large) number of moths that need IDs. I hope someone can help with some of them, I have tried to find IDs myself and some therefore need confirmations or corrections instead :-)

Here are first the Arctiinae, Ctenuchinae and Aganainae.

The first I thought should be an arctiine, but I can not find any match in MoT vol 6.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1634/24248531653_610920cc41_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CWL4DX)Thaton2015_08_27_09_36_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/CWL4DX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Syntomoides imaon or?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/24507795539_ffbe2c9b44_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DkERLX)Syntomoides imaon - Fang Hot Springs2015_08_29_09_28_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DkERLX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one I am pretty sure is Nyctemera coleta:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1480/24875393145_d2e88b309b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DU9TJH)Nyctemera coleta - Wat Tham Tub Tao2015_08_28_11_27_06_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DU9TJH) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one must be Neoduma kuangtungensis:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1720/24507795829_e9c3054d42_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DkERRX)Neoduma kuangtungensis - Thaton2015_08_27_09_39_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DkERRX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Here I am betting on Neochera dominia:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1488/24875393495_e7bd5d7827_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DU9TQK)Neochera dominia - Thaton2015_08_23_23_45_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DU9TQK) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This should be Lyclene undulosa:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1642/24507796279_9c7e6d1971_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DkERZH)Lyclene undulosa - Thaton2015_08_24_22_07_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DkERZH) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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This look similar to many of the species of Eugoa, but I can not find a species, that is spot on:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1698/24849120566_9190712b90_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DRQePd)Eugoa sp. - Thaton2015_08_26_07_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DRQePd) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This I believe to be Eressa confinis:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1454/24757489772_cd5a2d1267_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DHJBaW)Eressa confinis - Thaton2015_08_23_15_11_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DHJBaW) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

A Cyana sp. - there are several with 3 black dots, and can not find out what else to use as distingushing characters:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1562/24781992521_db17e67d17_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKUbZ8)Cyana sp. - Thaton2015_08_23_23_44_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DKUbZ8) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This I think looks a lot like Brunia sarawaka - so I hope that's what it is:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1661/24781992651_6e4581b8c7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKUc2n)Brunia sarawaka - Thaton2015_08_27_05_23_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DKUc2n) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This is similar to Barsine cruciata, but maybe the two inner black lines should fuse near the front edge of the wing:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1546/24757490122_0ef6121dd5_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DHJBgY)Barsine cruciata - Thaton2015_08_28_05_13_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DHJBgY) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This should be Asota producta:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1490/24781993011_f84b182f62_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DKUc8z)Asota producta - Thaton2015_08_26_09_23_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DKUc8z) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

and this Areas galactina:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1459/24875395275_c7e8ef65d3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DU9Unr)Areas galactina - Thaton2015_08_25_06_19_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DU9Unr) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 1.

1. probably Noctuidae . some resemblance to the markings of Maliattha.

2.Does not match the pattern of S. imaon.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Arctiidae/Syntominae/Syntomoides_imaon.html

3. N. coleta is right.

4. Neoduma also looks like N. ectozona.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2295/2389680432_e859da6f2e_z.jpg?zz=1

5. Neochera dominia looks right although the FW usually has a pale area. Vein stripes typically widen at margin.
http://insecta.pro/images/1024/21122.jpg

6. Lyclene undulosa is right.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/02_ARCTIINAE/04_Lithosiinae/24_Lyclene/Lyclene%20undulosa/Lyclene%20undulosa.htm

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Post 2

1. Probably Nolidae.

2. Looks correct to most websites.
http://board2.trekkingthai.com/board/upload/photo/2010-09/c8af16789bb4c9bed49200e2c4651942.jpg

3. The pattern & position of the orange red bands match Cyana catorhoda.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/arctiidae-3/Cyana%20catorhoda.jpg

4. Not sure what the difference is between females of Brunia antica & sarawaca.

5. No match for this Barsine species

6. Asota producta looks right.

7. Areas galactina is right.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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Thx a lot Seow for all the confirmations, corrections and suggestions!

1. Hmm. I can see some similarity - but nothing really close...

2. Yes, I see that (now!) - but do you think genus i right?

4. Yes, ectozona and kuangtungensis are very similar, but the small differences there are in illustrations and descriptions in MoT vol. 6 point to the latter in my opinion: Lower part of (outer) forwing band sharper in ectozona and more patterning on the inner half of wing in kuangtungensis. Do you disagree, or are you pointing out that ID'ing these two from photo simply is unreliable?

best wishes and lots of thx

Jan F. Rasmussen




Post 1.

1. probably Noctuidae . some resemblance to the markings of Maliattha.

2.Does not match the pattern of S. imaon.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Arctiidae/Syntominae/Syntomoides_imaon.html

3. N. coleta is right.

4. Neoduma also looks like N. ectozona.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2295/2389680432_e859da6f2e_z.jpg?zz=1

5. Neochera dominia looks right although the FW usually has a pale area. Vein stripes typically widen at margin.
http://insecta.pro/images/1024/21122.jpg

6. Lyclene undulosa is right.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/02_ARCTIINAE/04_Lithosiinae/24_Lyclene/Lyclene%20undulosa/Lyclene%20undulosa.htm

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1. You are probably right, though I cannot find a match among the 356 species of Nolidae treated in MoT vol 3, part 2. I may have overlooked it though, as the pics are quite small. The furriness even made me consider Lymantriinae, but I do not think so...

3. Certainly very similar to your link, but the species is not among the 36 Cyana spp. in MoT vol. 6. Wikipedia says India and Burma, so it could easily occur in Northern Thailand (actually the border to Burma/Myanmar is just 2-3 km away from where I found it), but I wonder how certain the ID of your link is...

4. I will let it be antica/sarawaka then :-)

5. Barsine sp. then :-)

Thx a lot again - more questions coming :-D


Post 2

1. Probably Nolidae.

2. Looks correct to most websites.
http://board2.trekkingthai.com/board/upload/photo/2010-09/c8af16789bb4c9bed49200e2c4651942.jpg

3. The pattern & position of the orange red bands match Cyana catorhoda.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/arctiidae-3/Cyana%20catorhoda.jpg

4. Not sure what the difference is between females of Brunia antica & sarawaca.

5. No match for this Barsine species

6. Asota producta looks right.

7. Areas galactina is right.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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Two Bombycidae, the first maybe an Ocinara sp., the second I have no idea:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1553/24917179076_52a6c864bd_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DXR4eN)Thaton2015_08_23_23_44_04_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DXR4eN) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1535/24647977840_092e2a8a88_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Dy4k6b)Thaton2015_08_23_16_58_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Dy4k6b) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Phalacra sp., Drepanidae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1617/24943589855_795323a1ae_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E1bqf4)Thaton2015_08_27_05_23_01_DxO_2 (https://flic.kr/p/E1bqf4) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Trabala sp., Lasiocampidae

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1599/24850822751_e25b46cd95_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DRYXPe)Thaton2015_08_26_06_13_X (https://flic.kr/p/DRYXPe) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

2. Yes, I see that (now!) - but do you think genus i right?

4. Yes, ectozona and kuangtungensis are very similar, but the small differences there are in illustrations and descriptions in MoT vol. 6 point to the latter in my opinion: Lower part of (outer) forwing band sharper in ectozona and more patterning on the inner half of wing in kuangtungensis. Do you disagree, or are you pointing out that ID'ing these two from photo simply is unreliable?



Jan F. Rasmussen


2. There is only one species in Syntomoides ie S. imaon. Others eg S godartii have been synonymised.
This is also often labelled as S. imaon on the net .
S. imaon ID'ed by Roger Kendrick.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/1305594

Could be Ceryx which has an orange patch on the thorax.


4. You are right it is N. kuangtungenssis.
I didn't have the resources earlier to check this out since googling N. k. comes out blank , but Neochera alone provides a pic.
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=x-raw-image%3A%2F%2F%2F1b5d98cc05b80040c0333e632a208fcb9 7639c99e2d5a866118bda46fe710370&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthreatenedtaxa.org%2FZooPri ntJournal%2F2014%2FNovember%2Fo358726xi146568-6570.pdf&docid=_BmsHUGYQtZSSM&tbnid=QAC4BcyYXRtohM%3A&w=693&h=492&ved=0ahUKEwjrlb2op-7KAhWEcI4KHYz6AbQQxiAIAg&iact=c&ictx=1

The other two, can't see a match in Noctuidae or Nolidae.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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Post 7.

The 1st one match Trilocha varians.
As ID'ed by Roger.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/442188

The 2nd should be the female.
http://pikul.lib.ku.ac.th/insect/007-013%20insects%20of%20thailand/009%20Systematics/30LEPIDOPTERA/MOTH/Bombycidae/Trilocha%20varians%20%20MF.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Phalacra no match.

Post 9.
Looks to be This Trabala vishnou.
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/Trabala-vishnou.php

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

MoB's example of Barsine cruciata actually shows an example where the black lines do not touch to form a 'cross'.
So the ID may still be right.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-7/nudariini/nudariini_8_6.php

TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx again - your help is really a blessing for me, Seow!

Three Limacodidae (I believe):

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1656/24845519022_5f6931916d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DRvMcC)Thaton2015_08_27_19_16_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DRvMcC) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1510/24937187186_99842a9e23_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DZBAXd)Thaton2015_08_27_05_26_DxO_1620 (https://flic.kr/p/DZBAXd) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1680/24336636963_cd16863a2b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D5xCi2)Thaton2015_08_26_08_57_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/D5xCi2) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Some lymantriines. Most of the lymantriine pictures I have are unidentified, here are those from my last trip, one caterpillar, 3 Orgyiini, 1 Nygmiini and one Arctornis sp.:

The larva is not from the north (unlike all the others) but from bangkok, where it lived in a Lotus pot happily munching the leaves of the Lotus:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1696/24870292451_4745632594_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DTGKtH)Bangkok2015_08_12_09_56_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DTGKtH) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1564/24937301036_16fbf4035d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DZCbN9)Thaton2015_08_25_19_39_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DZCbN9) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1467/24870292191_d5e80a0194_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DTGKpe)Thaton2015_08_26_06_09_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DTGKpe) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1676/24963603015_a25f13c0cb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZsx)Thaton2015_08_28_05_11_04_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZsx) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1700/24336750343_fb879d6ab2_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D5ycZR)Thaton2015_08_26_06_56_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/D5ycZR) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24963603155_93eabdd1fb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZuX)Thaton2015_08_27_19_13_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZuX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 14.
No. 2.
Birthamoides junctura.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/60_ZYGAENOIDEA/Limacodidae/26_Birthamoides/Birthamoides%20junctura/Birthamoides%20junctura.htm

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 15.
No. 3
Orgyia postica.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/01_LYMANTRIINAE/05_Orgyia/Orgyia%20postica/Orgyia%20postica.htm

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 15.
No. 2
Probably Ilema vaneeckei. Very variable.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/01_LYMANTRIINAE/10_Ilema/Ilema%20vaneeckei/Ilema%20vaneeckei_070415667.jpg

TL Seow:Cheers.

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Hi Seow

Thx again for your help. The first two, I am very convinced that you have nailed with your usual eloquence. The third one, on the other hand... I remember it as very small, it has reddish-brownish legs, that I do not see in any of the pics of Ilema vaneeckei, which seems to be a Sundaland species not recorded from Thailand, and this record is from extreme Northern Thailand. Are you sure?

best wishes

Jan


Post 15.
No. 2
Probably Ilema vaneeckei. Very variable.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/01_LYMANTRIINAE/10_Ilema/Ilema%20vaneeckei/Ilema%20vaneeckei_070415667.jpg

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Psyche]

Hi Seow

Thx again for your help. The first two, I am very convinced that you have nailed with your usual eloquence. The third one, on the other hand... I remember it as very small, it has reddish-brownish legs, that I do not see in any of the pics of Ilema vaneeckei, which seems to be a Sundaland species not recorded from Thailand, and this record is from extreme Northern Thailand. Are you sure?

best wishes

Jan

It was a tentative ID.
Since you have the book I thought you might check on it.
It looks too much like Orgyia with the usual markings enhanced with white.

Since there are only a few species there it might even be O. postica itself.

As for the others, I am afraid, no match found.

TL Seow: Cheers.
PS. Do you know of a species called Orgyia albofasciata. Schintlmeister 1989, TL Thailand.
albofasciata means marked with white fascias (bands or lines) & would seem to fit this one nicely.

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I know :-). There is, however, no book on the Lymantriinae in Thailand. I have the volumes 2-6 of MoT (vol. 1 about the Saturniidae is sold out) - but there is no Lymantriinae volume yet, and as far as I no know, no plan for one :-(.

Sorry I am a bit confused by your answer, the O. postica ID for no. 3, I certainly believe - it is the Ilema vaneeckei for no. 2 that I have difficulty with.

I a aware that it is difficult stuff with no really good resources available for Lymantriinae in Thailand, so I am very grateful for all the help you have given me.

best wishes

Jan. F. Rasmussen

[Psyche]

I know :-). There is, however, no book on the Lymantriinae in Thailand. I have the volumes 2-6 of MoT (vol. 1 about the Saturniidae is sold out) - but there is no Lymantriinae volume yet, and as far as I no know, no plan for one :-(.

Sorry I am a bit confused by your answer, the O. postica ID for no. 3, I certainly believe - it is the Ilema vaneeckei for no. 2 that I have difficulty with.

I a aware that it is difficult stuff with no really good resources available for Lymantriinae in Thailand, so I am very grateful for all the help you have given me.

best wishes

Jan. F. Rasmussen

Yes I am talking about no. 2 which I put as probable Ilema vaneeckei.
This looks like it is Orgyia but the usual O. postica & osseata do not match.
The name of Orgyia fasciata seems to match, but there is no info on this species.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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OK - now I got it.

I have tried researching Orgyia albofasciata, but can't find any further information, than that it was indeed described from Thailand by Schintlmeister in 1989. When I try googling Schintlmeister, 1989 no articles concerned with Thailand show up. Do you have the full reference to the article, I may try to get it. The specimen on my photo does have whitish lines, so name seem to fit :-)

thx again

Jan

Edit: I am now (from 5 minutes ago) connected to Schintlmeister on Research Gate, but he has only his newer works there. Quite generous though the whole MoT vol 5 (Notodontidae) is available for download in excellent quality including plates.

[Psyche]

What I know of O. albofasciata is from Funet .

Post 15 no. 5.
This appears not uncommon with several web images, but no one has gone further than Artaxa spp.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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Thx again - I will log it as a probable Artaxa sp. - genus is a lot better than tribus, which was the closest I could go :-)

I will let my other lymantriines rest - though I may have a go at a number of Lymantria spp. I have. Schintlmeister has his 2004 monograph with good colour plates covering all 167 species known at that time available for download also. If I start by making a list of Thai species, maybe I can get somewhere... Have you used this source? It seems very thorough. It also has distribution maps of all Asian species of the genus.

[Psyche]

I will need to join research gate to get some of the material later.
167 species of Lymantria alone, oh my !

TL Seow : Cheers..

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I can try to send you a copy of the PDF I downloaded if you want? I am not sure if I can, though, it is 146 mb + the plates in another file of 16-17 MB. Vol 5. of MoT (Notodontidae) is 82 MB, but I think my yahoo mail can send by dropbox

[Psyche]

No need & Thx.
The membership for Research gate is free.
I can join if necessary.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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OK - I just asked, in case you had no other reason to become a member ;-)

[Psyche]

Downloaded the files you sent.

Thx. again.

TL Seow : Cheers.

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Here comes some more provisionally categorized as noctuids, though I am not sure all are, there may be a nolid or two and an erebid among them:

Noctuidae:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1590/24498866894_22630131f9_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DjT6AN)Thaton2015_08_27_22_24_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DjT6AN) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one looks so characteristic, but I can't find it, not a noctuid after all?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1661/25129556835_02cd4d3e26_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EhBxKi)Thaton2015_08_27_19_01_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EhBxKi) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Noctuidae or Nolidae or?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1676/24833898390_fed2afb2ed_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DQudMU)Thaton2015_08_27_09_37_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DQudMU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Chrysodeixis eriosoma, I believe:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/24502706093_e47898704d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DkdLRT)Chrysodeixis eriosoma - Thaton2015_08_27_05_29_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DkdLRT) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Plusiopalpa adrasta, I believe:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1651/24833901950_625643584f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DQueRh)Plusiopalpa adrasta - Thaton2015_08_25_15_47_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DQueRh) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Possibly Anomis flava (Erebidae, Scoliopteryginae):
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1443/24761854549_ce1dc5e180_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DJ7YEH)Thaton2015_08_26_20_53_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DJ7YEH) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Noctuidae:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1501/25036276881_1739585a3e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E9nsSe)Thaton2015_08_26_08_18_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E9nsSe) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Noctuidae, Nolidae or?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1472/24502709893_c7ef7b105f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DkdMZp)Thaton2015_08_24_20_27_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DkdMZp) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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Two that I think, I got right already.

First Helicoverpa armigera, that I know from before. I caught it here in Denmark 3 times, though it only occurs here as a rare-uncommon migrant from Southern Europe or Africa and also reared one from a larva imported with peapods from Kenya:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1631/25129561195_dc12683621_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EhBz3t)Helicoverpa armigera - Thaton2015_08_26_06_12_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EhBz3t) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Bastilla joviana (Erebidae, Erebinae)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1460/25129556595_bf615bf4ce_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EhBxFa)Bastilla joviana - Thaton2015_08_27_19_59_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EhBxFa) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 31.

4. Chrysodeixis eriosoma should be right.
The similar C. acuta has a dark band bissecting the FW apex.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/80_Noctuidae/10Plusiinae/4166%20Chrysodeixis%20acuta/Chrysodeixis%20acuta%20980325225.jpg

5. Plusipalpa adrasta. is right . Typicla large hairy palps.

6. Anomis flava is right ;widespread.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anomis_flava_male_dorsal.jpg

7. This appears to be Condica spp. likely C. illecta.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/amph/illect.html
http://static.inaturalist.org/photos/226727/medium.jpg?1444481335
Almost certain. A similar species is C. conducta.
http://www.geocities.ws/hkmoths/noc/noc/Con-cond.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 31.
No. 2.

This has to be male Niganda donella. Notodontidae , a common species in Thailand.

Strongly marked form.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/moths-notodontidae/niganda-donella-notodontida.jpg

All those peripheral dark spots are there but less distinct.
See PT (paratype) 2 in the book.

TL Seow : Cheers.
PS. N. radialis & richaaardii have the costal base whitish.

[Psyche]

Post 31.
No 1.
This looks to be Amyna species close to Amyna axia ( = A. octo) Pantropical.
http://www.ontariomoths.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/9070-%E2%80%93-Amyna-axis-IMG_0884-copy-590x439.jpg
http://www.discoverlife.org/IM/I_MPG/0302/320/Amyna_axis,I_MPG30209.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acon/axis.html

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 31.
No 1.
This looks to be Amyna species close to Amyna axis ( = A. octo) Pantropical.
http://www.ontariomoths.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/9070-%E2%80%93-Amyna-axis-IMG_0884-copy-590x439.jpg
http://www.discoverlife.org/IM/I_MPG/0302/320/Amyna_axis,I_MPG30209.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acon/axis.html

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Psyche]

[QUOTE=guldsmed;129426]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1656/24845519022_5f6931916d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DRvMcC)Thaton2015_08_27_19_16_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DRvMcC) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This looks correct for Simplicia concisalis. Indo- australian , common.
The FW is dark brown; dark discal spot; marginal area beyond the white line not paler.
I happened to have MoB vol on Herminiinae.

The only field shot have been rendered purple.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/02_EREBIDAE/04_HERMINIINAE/22_Simplicia/Simplicia%20concisalis/Simplicia%20concisalis.htm

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1680/24336636963_cd16863a2b_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/D5xCi2)Thaton2015_08_26_08_57_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/D5xCi2) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr


This should be correct as Susica pygmaea.
The two lines converging near the apex is characteristic.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/60_ZYGAENOIDEA/Limacodidae/22_Susica/Susica%20pygmaea/Susica%20pygmaea.htm
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=260923

Another Thai species , Susica sinensis.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5691/23416027436_97d9d847bf_b.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/24963603155_93eabdd1fb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZuX)Thaton2015_08_27_19_13_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZuX) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Possibly this species Arctornis cygna. Range Sikkim to China & Taiwan.
Examples from Taiwan.
http://eoldata.taibif.tw/files/eoldata/imagecache/data_object_image/images/117/xiao_dian_bai_du_e___arctornis_cygna_moor1879.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arctornis_cygna.jpg


TL Seow : Cheers.
PS. I would say a high probability.

[Psyche]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1676/24963603015_a25f13c0cb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZsx)Thaton2015_08_28_05_11_04_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E2WZsx) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr



This is an intriguing one.
By cross checking all the genera in tribe Orgyiini only Orgyia has this colouration & pattern.
http://ftp.funet.fi/index/Tree_of_life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/noctuoidea/lymantriidae/

However it does not seem to match any species.
But I believed this is Orgyia osseata.

As stated in the text it is very variable & may have red or grey zones.
It is closest to the example of male no. 4 below.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-5/orgyiini/orgyiini_1_2.php

TL Seow : Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Wow - you solved many of them, thx a lot.

The last one I also thought was probably an Orgyia, but had no luck in finding anything similar. A very variable species such as O. osseata may well be the answer.

Regarding the Arctornis I agree that the wing pattern seem very similar or identical to A. cygna (named for being white a a swan?), but some pictures of cygna does not seem to have the rufous hair on the head, the rufufous tinge to antenna and legs, that mine has. This one from Taiwan for instance which also has distinct black spots on the legs, that mine does not. Do you think it could be individual variation or is either mine or the Taiwanese something else?

best wishes and thx again

Jan

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Some Erebids (and maybe some noctuids), here Epistema maculatrix, I think?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1527/25305137875_cdd5a6310c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ey8rSB)Epistema maculatrix - DoiPhaHomPokNP2015_08_24_14_18_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Ey8rSB) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Hamodes propitia?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1652/25009543480_67c2d6f701_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E71rXw)Hamodes propitia - Thaton2015_08_28_05_11_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E71rXw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Oxyode scrobiculata
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1450/25009543320_03f1666184_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/E71rUL)Oxyodes scrobiculata - Thaton2015_08_26_06_12_04_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/E71rUL) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

The next two I can't figure out. They have some similarity with Hypocala, but no species I can find fits, so probably something else...
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1496/25305137405_259efef8cb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ey8rJv)Thaton2015_08_23_14_30_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Ey8rJv) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1556/25186884522_f5c6331c49_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EnFngG)Thaton2015_08_23_14_34_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EnFngG) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one must be Hypocala - H. subsatura, I think?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1560/25212023341_91caa66322_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EpUdaB)Thaton2015_08_25_19_37_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EpUdaB) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Arctornis[/I] I agree that the wing pattern seem very similar or identical to A. cygna (named for being white a a swan?), but some pictures of cygna does not seem to have the rufous hair on the head, the rufufous tinge to antenna and legs, that mine has. This one from Taiwan for instance which also has distinct black spots on the legs, that mine does not. Do you think it could be individual variation or is either mine or the Taiwanese something else?

best wishes and thx again

Jan

Some A. cygna images may be incorrect.
In Taiwan there are only 5 species of Arctornis & they all are quite different from each other.
So I know the images from Taiwan are correct.

In the Taiwan field shot the head is hidden so the head tuft is not seen
The legs are only dark brown at the tip; the rest of the black dots are dirt on the cloth.

In the specimen shot the brown head tuft can be seen ;the antenna pinnae are very pale brown, but the specimen is old.

The matching features are wingshape; black spot; brown costa; brown head tuft; borwn at tip of leg(tarsus).
An important point is the arrangement of the glistening white scales on the FW ;they match.

I do not know whether there is any similar or closely allied species.
There are much fewer species in the colder north so I think not.

As for the other species I am afraid I have run out of search option.

Here is a pdf article by Karol Buscek on new species of Eugoa in Southeast Asia.
http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0029_0417-0468.pdf

Another pdf on new lithosiinae species.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwin9ebHmZjLAhUUwY4KHX2TB1gQFgg2MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fszmn.eco.nsc.ru%2Fvvdubat%2Fpdf%2 FTinea22(4)279-291.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGxGV-CGSp4iVuuEuc2Se4ERbjd0Q&sig2=EkFaWdy8Hz6yGHt_9EIS9A



TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx for the links, I have downloaded the papers - they will be studied :-)

Yes - the pinned specimen of A. cygnea shows some rufous and fits mine well and your other link is difficult to judge in that respect. What made me uncertain of the ID was these two from Taiwan, that show no rufous and one one them has black spots on the legs, but maybe these characters are variable:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3487/3953979007_39187c0f28_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/72pbcR)081212 台北 景美 仙跡岩 小點白毒蛾 Arctornis cygna (Moore, 1879) (https://flic.kr/p/72pbcR) by Shipher (士緯) Wu (吳) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/), on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2646/3953981569_430def255d.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/72pbY2)080526 桃園 巴陵 小點白毒蛾 Arctornis cygna (Moore, 1879) (https://flic.kr/p/72pbY2) by Shipher (士緯) Wu (吳) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Not too sure about those black spot on the legs of A. cygna from Taiwan.

Post 42 no 1.
I 5hink it is correct as E. maculatrix.
The Episteme can be very confusing.

It would appear E. maculatrix have the FW markings white & the HW black patch large & broad.
E. nipalensis have the FW markings yellow & the HW black patch narrower.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/05_NOCTUIDAE/08_AGARISTINAE/01_Episteme/Episteme%20maculatrix/Episteme%20maculatrix.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/4299356902/in/album-72157623146220091/
http://mothphotograph.web.fc2.com/Agaristinae/agaristinae1.html
http://theoldbookman.com/images/36476.jpg

H. propitia is right.

TL Seow : Cheers.
I see what you mean. there are a few others with more spotted legs.
http://gaga.biodiv.tw/new23/9408/090.htm
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8299/7969048982_516f2e64af.jpg
Perhaps a mixup with the unknown A. formosensis.

The other three in Taiwan.
A. l-ngrum.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Lymantriidae/A1Arctornis_l-nigrum_ussuricum.jpg
A. kanazawai
http://www.jpmoth.org/Lymantriidae/Arctornis_kanazawai.html

A. flavicostata. The FW scales are arranged differently rather than the costa being yellow.Perhaps another mixup & this should be A. formosenssis.
http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/345803.

This one labelled A. cygna may be the real A. flavicostata.
http://eoldata.taibif.tw/files/eoldata/imagecache/data_object_image/images/39/00053420.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 42.

No. 4 Hyblaea puera range world wide.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/hybl/puera.html

No. 5 Uncertain possibly this.
http://www.pestnet.org/SummariesofMessages/Crops/Trees,palmspandanus/Trees/Vitex,Hyblaeasanguinea,Guam.aspx
or.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/hybl/synaema.html

No 6.
Hypocala substrata looks correct . Lens-shaped mark near apex.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Hi Seow

Thank you so much - I did know Hyblaeidae at all :embrass: - I was very sure my examples must be some kind of Noctuoidea...

Now that you have introduced me to them, I have been googling them all morning. Is it possible, that my pics (from the same hotel balcony two days in a row) actually represents one species, namely this one:

http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=10872

best wishes

Jan F. Rasmussen

[Psyche]

Now that you have introduced me to them, I have been googling them all morning. Is it possible, that my pics (from the same hotel balcony two days in a row) actually represents one species, namely this one:

http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=10872

best wishes

Jan F. Rasmussen

You could be right, but I think both are more likely to be H. puera.
Typically H. constellata have the FW cilia near the apex white though perhaps not always so.
This white patch may be large or reduced to linear mark.
http://taibnet.sinica.edu.tw/uploads/20150704085848_345513_0.jpg
http://image2.club.sohu.com/pic/27/2c/7713ce45b65509a07f6f7c93488c2c27.jpg
http://www.jpmoth.org/Hyblaeidae/Hyblaea_constellata.html

The images in Bold System show this in most images.
(NOte IDs in Boldsystem are provided by contributors & occassional mis-IDs occur.)

Hyblaea puera is a serious pest in the Teak plantations of India & Bangladesh & by extension eastwards into the Indochinese region.

The lack of this white edge near the FW apex suggest both are H. puera.
Here is a female from Queensland Australia which is also a match for the 2nd Hyblaea.
http://www1.ala.org.au/gallery2/d/19065-2/hyblaea_puera_01.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Hi Seow

I am convinced, I did not notice the white cilia, it seems to be a very good mark. Thx again for you help and patience :-)

best wishes

Jan

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Some more - this should be Psimada quadripennis, Erebinae, right?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1441/25212018081_bd23dca829_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EpUbAV)Psimada quadripennis - Thaton2015_08_23_16_59_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EpUbAV) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Eublemma semirufa, Boletobiinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1612/25278899346_f327153ccf_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EvNY5b)Eublemma semirufa - Thaton2015_08_27_22_23_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EvNY5b) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Another Boletobiinae around Oruza, Zurobata or Cruxoruza?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1695/24678365143_aa4f9d7c75_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DAK5bc)Thaton2015_08_23_23_40_DxO_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DAK5bc) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Also Boletobiinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1516/24674517974_63fbaf94d8_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DApmxG)Thaton2015_08_25_06_17_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DApmxG) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Enispa elataria, Boletobiinae?

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7686/17097352124_e1ae424ab8_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/s3Qp8b)Enispa elataria - Tha Ton20141229_14_36_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/s3Qp8b) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Pericyma perhaps?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1485/25278894836_5ce090949d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EvNWJq)Thaton2015_08_26_06_14_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EvNWJq) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Those you have ID'ed are correct as far as I can tell.

No. 4 Cerynea species, could be this.
The white marks on the HW are broader though. ( Correction Nechesia albodentata.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/22316731184/in/album-72157622504830588/

No. 6 Pericyma species most likely this.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/80_Noctuidae/09Catocalinae/4242_Pericyma_cruegeri/Pericyma%20cruegeri.htm
http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=70291

Other species recorded in Thailand.
http://content.teldap.tw/main/dc_detail.php?dc_id=1307133
http://www.africanmoths.com/pages/EREBIDAE/EREBINAE/pericyma%20umbrina.htm

TL Seow :Cheers.

[Psyche]

Another Boletobiinae around Oruza, Zurobata or Cruxoruza?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1695/24678365143_aa4f9d7c75_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DAK5bc)Thaton2015_08_23_23_40_DxO_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DAK5bc) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr



This should be Eublemma (or Autoba ) rubra.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/acon/rubra.html

A similar species E. cf albostriata is Philippine in origin but seem to have find its way in HK.
http://www.oocities.org/asia/hkmoths/noc/noc/eub_albo.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Also Boletobiinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1516/24674517974_63fbaf94d8_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DApmxG)Thaton2015_08_25_06_17_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DApmxG) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr



Correction.
Nechesia albodentata.
(Carmara subcervina)
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/80_Noctuidae/11Acontiinae/4044Carmara_subcervina/Carmara%20subcervina.htm
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8352013625_2ba9ec3a55_b.jpg

TL Seow: Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx again Seow!

The first two may both be Episparina tortuosalis?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1499/24674517044_59fbd90ff3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DApmgE)Thaton2015_08_26_06_55_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DApmgE) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1657/24937470289_10811ab420_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DZD47i)Thaton2015_08_27_05_31_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DZD47i) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one I think I should be able to ID from Kononenko & Pinratana, but can't find it:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1524/25278912366_1bc9b79e53_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EvP2WE)Thaton2015_08_27_22_26_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EvP2WE) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Boletobiinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1542/25493802316_07dc4bf762_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EQNpeN)Thaton2015_08_27_22_24_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EQNpeN) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Nolidae? Or????

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1704/24893212543_342b7d9584_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DVJdPH)Thaton2015_08_27_09_36_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DVJdPH) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Tortricidae, Tortricinae, Archipini - I think - Maybe genus is Archips?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1663/25225107020_79e449e5be_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Er4guh)Thaton2015_08_27_05_30_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Er4guh) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 54.

1 & 2. Episparina tortuosalis is right.

5. This appear to be a Rivula species very close to R. niveipuncta. range India to Taiwan.

The wingshape , colour, & arrangement & position of the spots are correct eg the 2 apical spots; the submarginal dots ; the flower like ring of spots.
The thorax have a few more spots.
Another species R. microsticta(small marks) ,TL Bhutan ,may be the one but no info.

R. niveipuncta HK & Taiwan.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3028/2617926224_0c589b63e7_z.jpg?zz=1
http://eoldata.taibif.tw/files/eoldata/imagecache/data_object_image/images/39/00008509.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 54.

No. 3 . Dierna strigatus Erebidae, Calpinae. Little info.
From Taiwan.
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth007/twmoth031008.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 54.

No. 6, Archips looks correct.
Close to this but not a perfect match.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archips_xylosteana

[Psyche]

Post 54.
No. 4. This looks correct for Cerynea ustula Aventiinae India to S. China.
The black palpi; narrow black costa with white spots; the three black discal spots.
From HK.
http://m2.i.pbase.com/o3/05/598805/1/87910182.XSanHGLL.Sarobidesinconclusa.jpg

TL Seow : Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx a lot - the spots on the Rivula seems higher in number but smaller than R. niveipuncta, so I guess another species but as you say closely related.

[Psyche]

Post 54.

No. 3 . Dierna strigatus Erebidae, Calpinae. Little info.
From Taiwan.
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth007/twmoth031008.jpg

Correction The correct spelling is Dierna strigata.
http://www.alliedacademies.org/articles/external-male-genitalic-structures-ofdierna-strigata-moore-noctuidae-lepidoptera.pdf


Taiwan has only one species & that is now called Dierna duplicata . Sugi 1992.
Taiwan.
http://gaga.biodiv.tw/9709/473.jpg

The other species is Dierna acanthusalis.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4002/5164372436_4986808065_z.jpg

A third similar species seem to be present. Thaibug has a pic.
The FW has a white discal spot & two black postmedial spots.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/catocalinae-3/Ugia%20disjugens.jpg

TL Seow :Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 54.

No. 3 . Dierna strigatus Erebidae, Calpinae. Little info.
From Taiwan.
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth007/twmoth031008.jpg

Correction The correct spelling is Dierna strigata.
http://www.alliedacademies.org/articles/external-male-genitalic-structures-ofdierna-strigata-moore-noctuidae-lepidoptera.pdf


Taiwan has only one species & that is sometimes called Dierna duplicata . Sugi 1992.
Note pdf above article is dated 2014 & considered the Taiwanese form as D. strigata.
Some Taiwan authorities also called it strigata..
http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/item/00/43/14/bf.html


HK. Dierna patibulum.
http://static.inaturalist.org/photos/2197794/medium.jpg?1444736574

The other species is Dierna acanthusalis.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4002/5164372436_4986808065_z.jpg

Dierna timandra is assigned a new genus by Sugi.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/80_Noctuidae/09Catocalinae/4383_Naganoella_timandra/Naganoella%20timandra.htm

A 4th similar species seem to be present. Thaibugs has a pic.
The FW has a white discal spot & two black postmedial spots. Probably a female strigata.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/catocalinae-3/Ugia%20disjugens.jpg

TL Seow :Cheers.

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Hi Seow

Somehow I did not see your last post - possibly because of spending the last three weeks fighting a bad case of flu... Thx for the additional info :-)

[guldsmed]

Second one may be something else (Erebidae?) but the rest are certain geometrids, which I have no literature for...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/25520849315_ae31e1bfc2_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ETc2nn)Luxiaria sp. - Thaton2015_08_26_06_14_DxO_CZP (https://flic.kr/p/ETc2nn) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

maybe not geometridae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1527/25225229610_1e1a5e5398_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Er4TVU)Thaton2015_08_23_14_31_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Er4TVU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Pelagodes? Et least geometrinae

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1474/25153308499_01c4055c87_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EjHhhK)Thaton2015_08_23_23_39_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EjHhhK) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Ennominae

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1534/25520847075_aaa9ab2781_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ETc1GK)Thaton2015_08_23_23_39_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/ETc1GK) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

probably another ennomine...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/24890313454_389106a3bb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DVtn2q)Thaton2015_08_23_23_40_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DVtn2q) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

A nice geometrine...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1480/25428072001_7c9f51c8d3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EJZvUv)Thaton2015_08_24_22_06_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EJZvUv) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Posdt 63.

1. Luxiaria phyllosaria.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Eutoeini/eutoeini_5_1.php
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2240/5721933355_3573b9c9b6.jpg

2. Unknown but resembles Ericeia inangulata.
http://www.thaibugs.com/wp-content/gallery/catocalinae-3/Ericeia%20inangulata.jpg

3. Possibly Pelagodes falsaria.
Darker blue green brown costa ;brown cilia ;white line breaks & does not reach costa.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-9/geometrini/geometrini_37_10.php

P. veraria greener; white line reach costa; cilia not brown.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/geom/veraria.html

P. antiquadraria dark ;white line reaches costa.
See images of P. falsaria(9) & antiquadraria(10) in pdf file below.
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2011/f/zt03019p050.pdf

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 63

4. Cleora alienaria ;range India to Timor.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5500/10830501065_e9e06d56f6.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 63.

5. Micaria abydata.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Macariini/macariini_5_1.php
http://m1.i.pbase.com/g3/55/932755/2/121135061.7MgFbubP.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 63

6. Ornithospila lineata.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/85_GEOMETROIDEA/04_GEOMETRIDAE/07_Geometrinae/22_Ornithospila/Ornithospila%20lineata/Ornithospila%20lineata.htm

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Fantastic Seow - at least I had guessed 4 genera correct :-D

[guldsmed]

no idea... or maybe Sterrhinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1512/25494718606_0c8d1ebc8e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EQT6BU)Thaton2015_08_25_05_52_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EQT6BU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Looks similar to Cyclophora?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1443/25402341512_c8cd8fe928_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EGHD8o)Thaton2015_08_25_06_42_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EGHD8o) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Also similar to Cyclophora perhaps?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1554/24890312584_21c67e4e77_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DVtmLq)Thaton2015_08_27_05_25_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DVtmLq) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Ennominae near Cleora or Peribatodes or?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1709/25494720036_7c127036f7_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EQT73y)Thaton2015_08_26_06_08_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EQT73y) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

another Ennominae also near Cleora or Peribatodes or?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1569/25225228680_57db44bd8d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Er4TDS)Thaton2015_08_26_06_57_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Er4TDS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

A third one

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1570/25402340882_5e93b849f1_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EGHCWw)Thaton2015_08_27_05_29_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EGHCWw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 69

1. Zamarada denticulata.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Cassymini/cassymini_10_3.php
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3096/3155940826_58a2a1f01f.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 69.

No. 4 Catoria sublavaria. range Oriental tropics to Taiwan & PNG.
Examples from Taiwan .
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth007/twmoth031702.jpg
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth016/twmoth079092.jpg
http://taibnet.sinica.edu.tw/uploads/20150805103940_344716_0.jpg

[Psyche]

Post 69 no 5.

Probably Ectropis bhurmitra.
Markings eg dark patches on the FW matched.
Only the abdomen is paler.

Example of E. bhurmitra. range India to PNG.
http://static.inaturalist.org/photos/283074/medium.jpg?1444714447
http://zipcodezoo.com/images/thumb/6/60/Ectropis_bhurmitra_0.jpg/362px-Ectropis_bhurmitra_0.jpg
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8367/8487636195_ca63e470bc.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4007/4490152684_3e6695776b.jpg

[Psyche]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1443/25402341512_c8cd8fe928_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EGHD8o)Thaton2015_08_25_06_42_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EGHD8o) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr



Cyclophora intermixtaria.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-10/cosymbiini/cosymbiini_3_12.php
Examples from Taiwan.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/%E9%8B%B8%E7%B4%8B%E8%A4%90%E5%A7%AC%E5%B0%BA%E8%9 B%BE_Cyclophora_intermixtaria_(Swinhoe,1892)_(1402 4793658).jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/11659362334_5ab130d502.jpg

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Thx a lot! I am glad you agree to Cyclophora for no. 2. Do you think it possible, that no. 5 and 6 are the same species, just female and male?

[Psyche]

Thx a lot! I am glad you agree to Cyclophora for no. 2. Do you think it possible, that no. 5 and 6 are the same species, just female and male?

There are some differences.
The margins of 6 is smooth , 5 crenate. The FW fascia curving to the costa are different.
The abdomen of 6 has a white band at the top indicating it should be Cleora.
No match with MoB or funet.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

6. Hypomecis cineracea.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Boarmiini/boarmiini_38_8.php
HK, Taiwan.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8522/8548176684_ebab653823_b.jpg
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2679335806_7a33914b76.jpg

[guldsmed]

Looks very convincing :-)

Even here in Denmark I find the Boarmiini difficult...

[guldsmed]

Last geometrids from this trip:

Chiasmia maybe?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1591/24894137843_1737b0481c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DVNXTa)Thaton2015_08_28_05_12_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DVNXTa) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Sterrhinae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1542/25520845865_195bbeae51_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/ETc1kT)Thaton2015_08_27_09_38_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/ETc1kT) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Idaea or Scopula?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1609/24894138283_477d33c98f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/DVNY1K)Thaton2015_08_27_09_37_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/DVNY1K) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Funny one, looks like an over-large Eupithecia apart from the antennas...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1579/25153305849_980e349365_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EjHgv4)Thaton2015_08_27_05_31_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/EjHgv4) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 63/2
Post 69/3.

These two have distinctive markings & colouration but no possible match found.

Post 78/1
This appears to be Luxuria, from the abdominal spots but no correct match found.

Nearest is L amasa, but this have blurry markings & a stippled ground.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-11/Eutoeini/eutoeini_5_5.php
http://chigaku.ed.gifu-u.ac.jp/chigakuhp/html/kyo/seibutsu/doubutsu/06chou/ga/syakugaka/tobikagi/01.jpg

3. This is probably correct as Idaea ptylonopoda
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hkmoths/8373521786/in/album-72157623704600375/

TL Seow:Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 78/1.

This is possibly Luxiaria obliquata. not in MoB. range India to Taiwan
These examples are all from Taiwan
The arrangement of the markings match although they have a slightly different appearance.
http://twmoth.tesri.gov.tw/images/twmoth007/twmoth031146.jpg
http://eoldata.taibif.tw/files/eoldata/imagecache/data_object_image/images/39/00054602.jpg
http://mypets.by/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/3208871395_28046d2c75.jpg

[Psyche]

No match for the others.
Even trying to figure out the genus seems impossible.

TL Seow : Cjeers.

[guldsmed]

No match for the others.
Even trying to figure out the genus seems impossible.

TL Seow : Cjeers.

Thx a lot for trying and for those you nailed :-)

[guldsmed]

Two Uraniids, one is of the Uraniinae one of Epipleminae. First could be Micronia aculeata the second looks similar to genus Warreniplema:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/26220244301_32d3266a90_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FWZB8B)Fang Hot Springs2015_08_28_14_21_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FWZB8B) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/26220243911_717cf9d14f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FWZB1T)Thaton2015_08_26_06_15_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FWZB1T) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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And four I suppose to be Notodontids:

Phalera I thought, when I found it - but when looking in the book trying to get ID to species, I found the neighbour Snellentia divaricata, which is now my best guess:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1682/25681762994_c79cf2cd37_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F8pKp9)Thaton2015_08_25_20_19_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F8pKp9) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

In the book (MoT vol. 5)Phalera obscura looks similar, but when searching online on the name some very different looking critters turn up I wonder if the sole Thailand record depicted in the book is really the same species as the others?:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/25683877363_6b141231f0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F8AzVM)Thaton2015_08_28_17_40_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F8AzVM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Allodontoides tenebrosa I think:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1581/26286606085_d7bcfb1301_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G3RJbi)Wat Tham Tub Tao2015_08_28_11_25_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G3RJbi) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Saliocleta ochracea I think:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1683/26260662256_2fb89764da_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G1yKYU)Thaton2015_08_27_22_27_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G1yKYU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 83.

1. Acropteris ciniferaria. The bands are oblique.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-8/microniinae/microniinae_2_4.php
Phuket
http://www.phuketnaturetours.com/Images/Moths%20500/Acropteris%20ciniferaria%2001%20-%20Chonburi.jpg

2. Phazaca theclata. India to SE Asia. The markings on both wings matched.
HK.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/376/19921660760_d767b9611c_b.jpg

TL Seow Cheers.

[guldsmed]

Thx for very quick and convincing corrections :-)

[Psyche]

Post 84.

1, 3, & 4 ,IDs as you indicated.

2. Not sure what this is .It does not match P. obscura when reference image is blown up.

[guldsmed]

Thx for the confirmations - 3 out 4 ain't bad (for me at least) :-)

[guldsmed]

Some pyraloidea - through everything from this trip apart from Pyraloidea and a few Sphingidae.

Could this be Orthaga euadrusalis?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1483/25697258714_6e9c2ccee0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MaJJ)Thaton2015_08_24_22_08_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MaJJ) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

No idea...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1648/25699376763_531c11e168_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2mP)DoiPhaHomPokNP2015_08_24_02_42_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2mP) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one reminds of Galleria, but I do not know if there are Galleriinae species in the region, that could fit?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1518/25699380603_2b5817ebcd_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y3v2)Thaton2015_08_23_14_30_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y3v2) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

No idea...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1648/25697258994_78a1faf552_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MaPy)Thaton2015_08_23_14_35_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MaPy) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Looks similar to some Glyphodes but no exact match:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1511/26276178046_dbff327c9a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G2Whhw)Thaton2015_08_23_15_08_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G2Whhw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Should be another Glyphodes, and an unidentified from Borneo "Glyphodes sp. 8" at http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/50_PYRALOIDEA/Crambidae/63.9_Pyraustinae/Glyphodes/Glyphodes%20sp8/Glyphodes%20sp8.htm and Glyphodes actorionalis is similar too. Update: Glyphodes bicolor maybe?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1688/26302126295_dfe3681caa_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G5egN8)Thaton2015_08_23_23_44_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G5egN8) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 84 no. 2.

Baradesa lithosioides

This matches the male in the reference article well although it is paler.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Baradesa_lithosiodes_(7234087648).jpg

[Psyche]

Post 89 no 1.

It is Orthaga exvinacea.
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/Orthaga-exvinacea.php

Orthaga eaudrusalis.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Pyralidae/Epipaschiinae/A1Orthaga_euadrusalis.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4140/4992988768_770c548dfd_b.jpg

Both are mango pest.

[guldsmed]

I see the likeness, but I do not think it had these hindwings...

[Psyche]

I see the likeness, but I do not think it had these hindwings...

Which one are you refering to? Baradesa or Orthaga.
Both have the HWs hidden.

[Psyche]

Post 89 no 5.

Glyphodes stolalis. Widespread from Africa to Asia to Australia.
Malaya.
http://www.meloidae.com/data/0045/5-000-000-010-230.jpg
Taiwan
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bettaman/3066312307/in/album-72157605916993307/
Australia.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/stolalis.html

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 89 no 6.

Glyphodes bicolor is right.
In G bicolor the HW white patch extend narrowly on the inner margin down to the tornus.
Africa
http://www.africanmoths.com/images/crambidae/SPILOMELINAE/glyphodes%20bicolor1%20upp.JPG
Thailand.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/50_PYRALOIDEA/Crambidae/63.9_Pyraustinae/Glyphodes/Glyphodes%20bicolor/Glyphodes%20bicolor.htm

In G actornalis it does not or less so.
http://www.geocities.ws/pyralidaetw/R60-288.html
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5441/10015784995_a6cfb48587.jpg

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I was referring to 84/2 that I do not think had black and yellow hindwings, I remember handling it (it was dead as some ant or an other predator had bitten its head off), and I think I would have noticed such underwings. Difficult to know for sure though :-)

[Psyche]

[QUOTE=guldsmed;129675]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/25683877363_6b141231f0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F8AzVM)Thaton2015_08_28_17_40_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F8AzVM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

You are right it can not be Baradesa because 1. the abdominal end's yellow & black would be visible.
2. The FW is darker & the costal area almost black in Baradesa.
As I said in the earlier post I couldn't match the colour.


It is Ramesa bovoculosugens see the 2nd of the three variants in the reference article,
1 The colour & shading match correctly.
2. The FW marginal spots & shape matched correctly.
3. The FW apex has a pale whitish oblique band.
4. The series of black spots that goes round the discal spot are less sharp or clear in the ref image but can be seen on the right wing.

TL Seow : Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 89/3.

You are right it is Galleria mellonella. montypic in the genus. introduced world wide.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:-_5622_%E2%80%93_Galleria_mellonella_%E2%80%93_Grea ter_Wax_Moth_(14701408170).jpg
http://bugguide.net/images/raw/LKW/KHK/LKWKHKBK5KDKIK1KVQT0HKNKHKT04QEKEQLSVQRS1QJ04KJ07K J0XKLSPQO0EQ9KEQ9KSKNK5QV08Q.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Galleria_mellonella_%E2%80%93_Greater_Wax_Moth_(14 516157729).jpg

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Yes - there it was (Ramesa bovoculosugens) - wonder why I overlooked that :embrass:

Edit: Hmm looking again, I think maybe Ramesa siamica is even closer? Or maybe not, it seems to have some white marks not in my specimen...

[Psyche]

Yes - there it was (Ramesa bovoculosugens) - wonder why I overlooked that :embrass:

Edit: Hmm looking again, I think maybe Ramesa siamica is even closer?


Even with a proper reference these Notodontids can be quite a headache.
My laptop is getting old. With usual 110% zoom I couldn't scroll properly .
Only by setting to 50% do I get some speed but the image becomes too small, until I zoom up on the image I want.

However, I believe Ramesa bovoculosugens is correct.

The other three R. siamica, lacrimisaddica & bhutanica are more closely related & similar as stated in the text.
All three have the lower 1/3 of the FW paler, from outer margin (termen) to the base.
The marginal & submarginal spots are enlarged often joining to form short bars.

In contrast, R, bovoculosugens have the FW evenly grey on the FW & marginals & submarginals not broaden.

TL Seow: Cheers.
PS R. siamica.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/01_NOTODONTIDAE/03_Ceirinae/01_Ramesa/Ramesa%20siamica/Ramesa%20siamica.htm

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Yes - as my last edit suggests, I have also gone back to your ID opinion :-)

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More pyraloids:

Looks characteristic but haven't found a match:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1680/26235869741_429f677dab_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FYnG2K)Thaton2015_08_23_23_45_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FYnG2K) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Possibly Paranacoleia lophophoralis:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1594/25697262934_af146d58b3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbZu)Thaton2015_08_25_06_43_02_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbZu) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Sameodes cancellalis?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/26029263780_a18cdd3061_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FE7Mh1)Thaton2015_08_26_06_15_04_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FE7Mh1) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Hmmm... Is this Pyraloidea or Erebiidae?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1694/26276173966_b4e1802bb3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G2Wg5b)Thaton2015_08_26_06_13_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G2Wg5b) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Another No idealis

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1606/26276177836_5536cb6e79_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G2WhdU)Thaton2015_08_26_06_12_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G2WhdU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This must be Diaphania indica:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1635/25699380083_f32e540876_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y3m4)Diaphania indica - Thaton2015_08_26_06_15_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y3m4) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 102.

1.Nausinoe pueritia. India to Australia.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/50_PYRALOIDEA/Crambidae/63.9_Pyraustinae/Nausinoe/Nausinoe%20pueritia/Nausinoe%20pueritia_080925110.jpg

2. & 3 correct.
Paranacoleia lophophoralis ; range Nepal to Japan & Singapore.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/63_Crambidae/6109_Pyraustinae/610908601_Paranacoleia_lophophoralis_1713/Paranacoleia_lophophoralis_040917323.jpg
Taiwan
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/3060965770_a69b63f362_m.jpg
S. cancellaris
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/cancellalis.html

6. As it is. Diaphania indica.
http://www.nbair.res.in/insectpests/Diaphania-indica.php

[Psyche]

Post 102 no. 6.

Pagalia ochrealis. range China, Taiwan to Japan.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyraustinae/Paliga_ochrealis.html

HK Pyralids including Paranacoleia & Paliga. pdf.
http://hkentsoc.org/bulletin/HKEB3(2)_Sterling&Kendrick_Pyraloidea.pdf

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Thx a lot for your help and patience - I am amazed (but very glad!) that you take time to help me so much :-)

Are you sure about the Pagalia ochrealis? I feel that the number and shape of lines are differebt, and that the illustrations Pagalia ochrealis show some shading in the margins of the wings, that mine does not have...

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Even more pyraloids:

Cirrochrista sp. probably C. annulifera?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1661/25697262604_9c6d67375a_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbTN)Thaton2015_08_26_06_58_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbTN) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Possibly Cnaphalocrocis sp.?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1523/26029263820_5697b71383_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FE7MhG)Thaton2015_08_27_05_31_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FE7MhG) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

This one I have seen other places too, but never found a name:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1608/25697262414_1dd3c88c1d_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbQw)Thaton2015_08_27_09_19_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbQw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Too worn to ID?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1561/25697262464_5528173263_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbRo)Thaton2015_08_27_09_38_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9MbRo) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Spoladea recurvalis

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/25699376863_1fb5970ea3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2ox)Spoladea recurvalis - Thaton2015_08_27_14_38_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2ox) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

?

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1651/26209707642_24dfea5d24_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FW4AX5)Thaton2015_08_27_05_25_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FW4AX5) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Thx a lot for your help and patience - I am amazed (but very glad!) that you take time to help me so much :-)

Are you sure about the Pagalia ochrealis? I feel that the number and shape of lines are differebt, and that the illustrations Pagalia ochrealis show some shading in the margins of the wings, that mine does not have...


You do have a point there.
The fourth band is the outermost, near the margin.
In the examples of P. ochrealis from Japan & HK, this band is fuzzy & vaque.
I have merely thought this is regional variation.
Japan
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyraustinae/F1Paliga_ochrealis.jpg
HK.
http://www.jpmoth.org/Crambidae/Pyraustinae/F1Paliga_ochrealis.jpg

Roger Kendrick states in his article that P. ochrealis was known earlier in HK as Paratalanta nr, aureolalis.



Paliga aureolalis have the four bands sharply defined.
As stated in the text Paliga aureolalis was formerly known as Paratalanta aureolalis.
Range Nepal to Australia.
This should be the correct ID.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/pyru/aureolalis.html

I am unable to cross check out another Paliga celalatis range Sri Lanka to Australia.

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 106/1

Cirrhocrista annulifera should be correct .(annulifera = ring-bearing).
Most examples have a ring.
Samui.
http://www.samuibutterflies.com/02_images/galleries/lepidopteracrambidae/cirrhochristaannulifera.jpg

http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=315738

[Psyche]

Post 106/2

Cnaphalocrocis poeyalis.

3, species which are rice pest.

1. C medinalis. FW border parallel to outer band; dical spot short.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/medinal4.jpg
http://www.celkau.in/Crops/Cereals/images/C.%20medinalis%20adult.jpg

2. C. trapezalis. outer band not parallel to black border; discal mark long & lunulate.
http://www.africanmoths.com/images/crambidae/SPILOMELINAE/cnaphalocrocis%20trapezalis1%20upp.JPG
http://nature.berkeley.edu/~oboyski67/Lepidoptera/images/Cnaphalocrocis_trapezalis_2.jpg

3. C. poeyalis. outer band straight ,black border curved leaving an oval pale area , discal spot short.
FW costa marked black & white.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4933789880_4a67d31d91.jpg
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/poeyalis.html

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

Post 106/6

Agrioglypta itysalis
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/itysal.html

TL Seow: Cheers.

[Psyche]

106/3

No name given.
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/50_PYRALOIDEA/Crambidae/63.2_Crambinae/Crambinae%20Gen%20sp/Crambinae%20Gen%20sp1/Crambinae%20Gen%20sp1.htm

TL Seow:Cheers.

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Thx again! Strange that the white crambid does not have a name, not even a genus - I have seen it more than one place, and it is characteristic looking...

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Last Pyraloidea:

Spoladea recurvalis

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/25699376863_1fb5970ea3_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2ox)Spoladea recurvalis - Thaton2015_08_27_14_38_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/F9Y2ox) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Another variation of No idealis

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1580/26029259570_8c78dd2bf6_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FE7L2q)Thaton2015_08_28_05_08_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FE7L2q) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Paracymoriza sp. - I found several very similar, but can not get closer, seems difficult.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1628/26209760122_a53ecb7726_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FW4SxU)Paracymoriza sp. - Thaton2015_08_23_23_42_01_DxO_HF (https://flic.kr/p/FW4SxU) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

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And lastly comes a few sphingids for confirmation or correction:

Theretra silhetensis ssp. silhetensis

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1507/26356829806_de826171a0_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ga4Df7)Theretra silhetensis ssp. silhetensis - Thaton2015_08_23_14_15_01_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/Ga4Df7) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Theretra nessus

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1450/26382715825_f56b902d5d_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GcmjfM)Theretra nessus - Thaton2015_08_27_19_17_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/GcmjfM) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Theretra latreillii

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1614/26109891230_d09657ec7c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FMf21s)Theretra latreillii - Thaton2015_08_26_08_13_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FMf21s) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Acosmeryx probably Acosmeryx shervilii

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1713/26290375982_6f3b2f48a4_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/G4c3Qw)Acosmeryx shervilii - Thaton2015_08_27_05_28_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/G4c3Qw) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Clanis undulosa ssp. gigantea

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1482/26382717455_262bbe47e2_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GcmjJT)Clanis undulosa ssp. gigantea - Thaton2015_08_25_05_50_03_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/GcmjJT) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

Parum colligata

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1564/26109891950_8025b4719e_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FMf2dS)Parum colligata - Thaton2015_08_25_20_20_DxO (https://flic.kr/p/FMf2dS) by Jan Fischer Rasmussen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jan_f_rasmussen/), on Flickr

[Psyche]

Post 113/1

Spoladea recurvalis is fairly common, worldwide.
http://lepidoptera.butterflyhouse.com.au/spil/recurv.html

113/3

Paracymoriza vagalis.
Thailand.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lennyworthington/25264204954

Yunnan Sinobug.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7300/8885179539_fb78a7be23_b.jpg

[Psyche]

114/1
Theretra silhentensis; ID'ed by the white band from thorax down to abdomen.

114/2
Rhynocolaba acteus.
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-3/sphingidae/sphingidae_31_1.php

114/3
Theretra latreillei; wings with multi fine lines.

114/4
Ascomeryx shervillii

FW with postmedial black band variously branched.
A. anceus.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_sud.htm
A. naga
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_nag.htm
A. sericeus.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_sri.htm

FW with black postmedial band from costa to tornus, not branched.
A. pseudomissa. FW with antemedial curved band strongly developed.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_pse.htm
A. shervillii.FW with all markings inner to postmedial dark band , do not form broad bands.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/a_shv.htm

TL Seow: Cheers.

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Ouch - regarding R. acteus versus T. nessus it was a silly error even for me, I have pictures of both from before, and somehow got them mixed up in my mind, did not bother to look up even in my own files because I thought I knew :embrass:

[Psyche]

114/5.
Clanis bilineata.Discal dark shading from extend from tornus to vein 3 & a lttle above along outer margin.
Subbasal curved band moderate.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_bil.htm

C. undulosus ;Dark shading extend from tornus to above vein 4 at outer margin. subbasal band poor.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_gig.htm

C.hyperion ;Very dark shading reaching a bit above vein 3; markings strong, 4 bands reaching lower margin.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/c_hyp.htm


114/6
Parum colligata.
http://tpittaway.tripod.com/china/p_col.htm

TL Seow: Cheers.