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Rustic
20-Nov-2004, 11:36 PM
The two looked identical. According to C&P4, their difference is at the upperside. do we have the upperside to confirm the identification? ;P

Jason's A. amphimuta
http://www.pbase.com/mr_jason/image/35146816.jpg

Simon's A. major
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/simonsng/09182004%20-%20Sime/arhopala_major_major_9770.jpg

Elbowed Pierrot
21-Nov-2004, 12:40 AM
here is another, shot in KB.. me getting confused with the Arhopala genus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/simonsng/10162004%20-%20KB%20and%20USR/Arhopala_amphimuta_amphimuta_0621.jpg

perhaps khew can show us the light ;P

Commander
21-Nov-2004, 12:43 AM
here is another, shot in KB.. me getting confused with the Arhopala genus

perhaps khew can show us the light ;P

Heh... no such luck. This is the most difficult genus to tackle, and even C&P4 does not show upperside/underside, male/female for all the species. So it's going to be difficult going. I have roughly ID'ed at least 15 species of Arhopala, but can never be sure. :hmmm:

Rustic
21-Nov-2004, 12:44 AM
All look similar (ie. Sime, KB, USR).
And, C&P4 said that both just as common. :confused:

Commander
21-Nov-2004, 12:47 AM
All look similar (ie. Sime, KB, USR).
And, C&P4 said that both just as common. :confused:

Not only these two. There're more which are only marginally different. :sweat:

Elbowed Pierrot
21-Nov-2004, 12:52 AM
http://www.pbase.com/mr_jason/image/35146816.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/simonsng/10162004%20-%20KB%20and%20USR/Arhopala_amphimuta_amphimuta_0621.jpg

these 2 have similar markings

whereas this have a slightly different markings on the edges of the hindwings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/simonsng/09182004%20-%20Sime/arhopala_major_major_9770.jpg

Commander
21-Nov-2004, 12:55 AM
Again, the advice is to look at the key in C&P4. ;P Not easy though - it's like winding thru' a maze. :sweat: What seems different in certain species are considered "variations" whereas in other species, they are the characteristic ID features. So you gotta remove C&P4 from its doorstop function and read it! :bsmile:

Take a look at the shot on my website of Arhopala epimuta. Slight differences, but if you don't compare with another, can easily be confused. :stupid:

Rustic
21-Nov-2004, 01:15 AM
Take a look at the shot on my website of Arhopala epimuta. Slight differences, but if you don't compare with another, can easily be confused. :stupid:

A. epimuta's hindwing/underside has one less crown compared to A. amphimuta and A. major. ;P

Green Baron
21-Nov-2004, 11:06 AM
The two looked identical. According to C&P4, their difference is at the upperside. do we have the upperside to confirm the identification? ;P

Jason's A. amphimuta
http://www.pbase.com/mr_jason/image/35146816.jpg

Simon's A. major
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/simonsng/09182004%20-%20Sime/arhopala_major_major_9770.jpg
In the first place do we know which is which ?:bsmile: How do Jason and Simon arrived at the ID :hmmm: These two are very similar and impossible to ID unless you have a photo of the upperside.

Khew,
Maybe you can post of photo of upper and underside of your set specimens.

Elbowed Pierrot
21-Nov-2004, 03:08 PM
In the first place do we know which is which ?:bsmile: How do Jason and Simon arrived at the ID :hmmm: These two are very similar and impossible to ID unless you have a photo of the upperside.

Khew,
Maybe you can post of photo of upper and underside of your set specimens.

good question. thats the reason for this post :bsmile: